[ale] [OT] Fwd: Open source coms to your Ford CAN bus

[Jim Kinney]

heh, heh. talk about "driverless cars" and "remote, keyless entry".

Unless the ONLY way to update the firmware is a physical connection that is
mechanically locked and two parts (one in the car, one out of the car -
think asymmetric encryption in silicon with the master key kept at the
owners house) that FAIL written all over it.

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:53 AM, JD <jdp at algoloma.com> wrote:

> When reading this, my first thought was about how many existing hacks were
> against vehicles and how did they plan to patch all vehicles 12 times a
> year as
> new ones were discovered.
>
> Would patching even help when the protocols are implemented in hardware?
>
> In 2010, hacks against those tire pressure reporting systems were
> announced:
>
> http://arstechnica.com/security/2010/08/cars-hacked-through-wireless-tyre-sensors/
> "Earlier in the year, researchers from the University of Washington and
> University of California San Diego showed that the ECUs could be hacked,
> giving
> attackers the ability to be both annoying, by enabling wipers or honking
> the
> horn, and dangerous, by disabling the brakes or jamming the accelerator."
>
> I am concerned. Very concerned.  Even if they use unique. local-only,
> wired,
> certificate-based encrypted connections, I'm still afraid.
>
>
> On 02/06/2013 10:10 AM, alan at alanlee.org wrote:
> >
> >
> > Android will be in about 30% of all vehicles sold by auto OEMsby model
> year 17.
> >  OpenXC is just the beginning.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Alan
> >
> >
> > On February 6, 2013 at 9:44 AM "Ron Frazier (ALE)"
> > <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This looked cool so I decided to crosspost it.
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> From: jebadiah.moulton at atlanta-robotics.com
> >> Sent: Wed Feb 06 06:24:34 EST 2013
> >> To: AHRC <botlanta at yahoogroups.com>
> >> Subject: [AHRC - botlanta] Open source coms to your Ford CAN bus
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ford has announced that there CAN network is now open source, well 99%.
> >>
> >> http://openxcplatform.com/
> >>
> >> For those who don't know CAN (Controller Area Network) is how all the
> sensors
> > and electronics are controlled and read in any vehicle.
> >>
> >>
> >> I found out about it from http://opensourcehardwarejunkies.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> This podcast is an interview with the developers of the project at
> Ford.  They
> > have designed it so that Android and Arduino people can start writing
> apps to
> > read the CAN network.  They said it is open in the sense that it is a
> read only
> > development kit.  I wouldn't want to be writing anything to my brake
> system
> > anyway.  I feel better about messing with it knowing I can't write
> anything.
> > Imagine your whole cluster of instruments on your android device or your
> history
> > plotted out for any peripheral in your car.  This is great for racers.
> >>
> >>
> >> Makes me like Ford more.
> >>
> >>
> >> Here is a book I've been wanting to get on CAN.
> >>
> >>
> >
> http://www.elektor.com/products/books/electronics/en-controller-area-network-projects.1910639.lynkx
> >
>
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