[ale] Old host you want to unload?

Mon Aug 26 11:11:19 EDT 2013

I have both the 1U dells and the tower dells still.  I've pulled everything
up into the den and am cleaning / testing it now.  If you're still
interested, let me know and we can arrange a time for you to swing by (I'm
in Smyrna) and take a look.

Scott

On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Chuck Payne <terrorpup at gmail.com> wrote:

> Scott,
>
> Hey do you still have those? I have a rack now and place I can put
> them. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, I been swamped at
> work.
>
> Chuck
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Scott Castaline <skotchman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > I've got an old Dell Poweredge 1400 series server. It only has one of
> > two possible CPU modules, and 512MB. It also has 3 SCSI Wide HDDs. (It
> > did have 4 but one died, can't find track 0 on powerup, you can hear
> > the constant recal going on with that drive.) It hasn't been powered
> > up in a while, you're welcome to come over and check it out, if it
> > interests you. I live in the Lawrenceville area.
> >
> > Scott C
> >
> >
> > On 07/15/2013 10:14 AM, Jerald Sheets wrote:
> >> Ok, I'm at a desk and not on a phone.
> >>
> >>
> >> Let's sort of set the stage, if you will, to clarify a few things.
> >>
> >> First, I've raised two boys into their 20's and done this all
> >> before. Second, I've got a metric crapload of snort processing
> >> scripts I've written that watch for all manner of icky URL matches
> >> on "requested sites" and also on Squid's logs to do the same.  I
> >> took the stance with the boys of "trust but verify" which is a very
> >> "apple-storeish" thing to do.  I had transgressions once by each
> >> boy that got addressed personally and quietly and have managed
> >> (aside from the occasional pop-up storm) to keep them "porn free"
> >> if you will as long as they've been under my roof. Anything they've
> >> managed outside of the house is beyond the scope of my purview, of
> >> course, but they pay for their own phones now… I can't "control"
> >> their intake forever.
> >>
> >> Now I'm on "kids 2.0" with my second wife, and they're all girls
> >> and at ages 3, 6, and 10.  The 10 year old has an internet-capable
> >> device,  so, I'm putting the same system back in place with the
> >> same scripts and logging and automated emails and such.  However,
> >> their mother wants the added protection of content filtering for a
> >> couple of years until "aunt flo" arrives and she can halve "talk
> >> 1.0" with her, but also wanting to know /what /was requested and by
> >> what mechanism.  Ipcop to the rescue again…you can say "no" via
> >> automated system, but it's considerably more important to know what
> >> is being asked for and how.  Was it typed in? Why is the child
> >> interested in that particular topic?  (etc. etc.)
> >>
> >> Also, having all these folks on the network at home while "mom &
> >> dad" work from home a lot requires packet-shaping of the Xbox and
> >> Rou down and web traffic/SSH up.  Also, when on the road, I need to
> >> be able to VPN into my private network from anywhere to do
> >> something even so small as printing a doc for my wife all the way
> >> to rooting around my internal net for various reasons.  (i.e., you
> >> can't hit the time machine from the outside)
> >>
> >> So, a smallish box with modest means to run a couple hundred meg
> >> distro for firewalling seemed to be the way to go for us… that's
> >> why I asked.
> >>
> >>
> >> TL;DR.  (I've done this before.. I just need hardware)
> >>
> >> Something else on the topic…. I re-read and it appeared I was
> >> *only* asking for "free" stuff… I'm not. If you've got something
> >> hogging space and you're under a "nag order" to get rid of it,
> >> please do think of me first.  And if it requires a few bucks,
> >> that's good too.  I just wanted to work with you guys who may need
> >> a few bucks first before giving that cash to $company making cheap
> >> crap in China.  I'd rather buy the cheap crap from you instead.
> >> XD
> >>
> >>
> >> --j
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 15, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Tom Freeman
> >> <tfreeman at intel.digichem.net <mailto:tfreeman at intel.digichem.net>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Please forgive the chime in - but...
> >>>
> >>> +1  with an observation of sorts
> >>>
> >>> A parent still needs to monitor sufficiently to catch a usuable
> >>> per centage (what ever that value is) to ensure that the
> >>> conversation takes place. (I caught a daughter sneaking a viewing
> >>> of "Flesh Gordon" from a copy her late mother gave me. _That_ was
> >>> an awkward conversation!)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, Jim Kinney wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In short: don't rely on technology as a role model stand-in for
> >>>> children. I have exactly 0 filters on the feed at my house.
> >>>> none. waste of time. Kids will find what interests them. If
> >>>> it's porn, you're overdue for "the talk" and that one will go
> >>>> on for the next several years. If the adult is not capable of
> >>>> sitting down and watching what they are and rationally
> >>>> explaining what is problematic about it, the child will begin
> >>>> to disregard the adult as an authority figure and view them as
> >>>> just another knee-jerker wearing blinders. Most kids are
> >>>> wanting to find stuff that's not porn and other "bad stuff".
> >>>> Most kids get embarrassed or grossed out when it accidentally
> >>>> crosses the screen on an errant mouse click. It's far more
> >>>> important to have them understanding that they will not be
> >>>> punished the occasional mistake but will be expected to learn
> >>>> from them. Teach them the "back" button in both mouse and
> >>>> keystrokes :-) Ron brought up a bigger issue that can't be
> >>>> filtered with current tools: what the kids actually say online
> >>>> to each other. Between 12-13 and about 19-20, girls are vile,
> >>>> horrid creatures to other girls and boys are brain-damaged
> >>>> monsters with illusions of invincibility. A useful tool would
> >>>> be a screen mirror with recording so the nasty things they say
> >>>> to each other can be replayed, discussed, and used as reasons
> >>>> why privilege A is being withheld. I'm thinking of a chat
> >>>> mirroring tool or email copy process. It will only get to be
> >>>> used once then they will change methods (if they are smart).
> >>>> But that level of guidance, no matter what _they_ think, would
> >>>> benefit them greatly learning how to relate with others.
> >>>> Besides, once the hormones kick in, they will find a way to
> >>>> find out about it. If the default view at home is "NO! BAD!",
> >>>> they will look elsewhere for answers unless they are totally
> >>>> dominated by helicopter parents. Most commercial porn is crap
> >>>> with subtle and not so subtle overtone of violence against
> >>>> women as themes. It's a challenge to find something that can
> >>>> serve as guidance for humans really relate in bed. And
> >>>> intelligent bed banging is far better than stupid gun banging
> >>>> in the street. On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Ron Frazier
> >>>> (ALE) <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com
> >>>> <mailto:atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com>> wrote: Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Since I brought up OpenDNS, even though I'm a user and a fan,
> >>>> I should point out some limitations.  About 10%, as a rough
> >>>> guestimate, of the ugly stuff will sneak through the filter.
> >>>> The purveyers of junk bring up new sites too fast for
> >>>> everything to be in the database.  Do not assume your kids will
> >>>> be totally prevented from getting to any and all "insert bad
> >>>> category" stuff.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, if your kid knows how to do any of the following, he /
> >>>> she can bypass the filter: choose an alternate dns server on
> >>>> the pc, use a proxy / anonymizer (although you can filter that
> >>>> category), browse by ip alone without dns, start up a vpn,
> >>>> take their laptop / smartphone to a friend's house or hotspot
> >>>> or step parent's house.  Anything that bypasses the use of the
> >>>> OpenDNS servers or changes their public ip bypasses the filter.
> >>>> I have wished in the past that I could tie the filter to a
> >>>> specific pc, but OpenDNS does not provide that as far as I
> >>>> know.
> >>>>
> >>>> Internet Explorer provides some built in content filtering
> >>>> options, which can tie into things like NetNanny (I think),
> >>>> but I've never used it.  Firefox doesn't provide any of that
> >>>> natively that I'm aware of, but there may be plugins for it.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have links to a couple of Christian sites related these
> >>>> topics I could try to dig up if anyone wants.
> >>>>
> >>>> Note that, even if they cannot easily access "uglyjunk.com
> >>>> <http://uglyjunk.com>" because of OpenDNS, they can see links
> >>>> to it in google and bing, and in the latter case, with live
> >>>> video coming though bing.  The child's pc need not ever visit
> >>>> "uglyjunk.com <http://uglyjunk.com>" to see some of its
> >>>> content, albeit with smaller pictures.
> >>>>
> >>>> You can make things harder to bypass by putting the OpenDNS
> >>>> servers in your router settings.  Then, any pc which just uses
> >>>> basic dhcp to get it's ip and dns will pick that up from the
> >>>> router.  But, that does not prevent the pc from querying
> >>>> another dns server directly if it wants to.  If the pc can get
> >>>> an ip for "uglyjunk.com <http://uglyjunk.com>", it can still
> >>>> visit the site.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have heard that you can get hosts files of preconfigured
> >>>> blacklist sites, then the computer is just directed to nowhere
> >>>> when they try to get those sites, before even querying the dns.
> >>>>  I've never used that though.
> >>>>
> >>>> The service also depends on linking your public ip to your
> >>>> account.  That's why going to a hotspot bypasses the filter.
> >>>> They'll have a different public ip which is not linked to your
> >>>> account.  Even if the pc was set to use the OpenDNS servers,
> >>>> your personal filter settings would not be in affect.  You
> >>>> would still get phishing protection though.
> >>>>
> >>>> Since your public ip is subject to change periodically when
> >>>> your cable / dsl modem resets, you need to run a small utility,
> >>>> which I run in Windows, to link your current public ip with
> >>>> your account and filter settings.  You'll have to check on
> >>>> whether they have a linux utility, but they probably do.  When
> >>>> your ip changes, if the utility runs, the OpenDNS servers get
> >>>> set to respond to the new ip.  If your ip setting utility
> >>>> doesn't run for a few days, then your filters won't be in
> >>>> affect for a few days if your ip has changed.
> >>>>
> >>>> I do NOT recommend running the ip setting utility on the
> >>>> child's computer.  Here's why.  Let's say you did that.  They
> >>>> go to starbucks.  They login, then the ip utility links
> >>>> STARBUCKS public ip to YOUR filter account.  Your child would
> >>>> then be subject to your filters, but so would EVERYONE ELSE in
> >>>> starbucks.  That might cause some problems.  This would remain
> >>>> in effect until your child logged into another network and got
> >>>> another public ip.
> >>>>
> >>>> Because ip's change, the system occasionally gets confused as
> >>>> to which account owns which ip.  This is rare, but, for
> >>>> example, let's say there is a disruption at the isp and all the
> >>>> cable modems get reset.  You may end up with what was someone
> >>>> else's public ip and they may end up with yours.  It may take a
> >>>> little while for the ip setting utilities to set everything
> >>>> straight. So, the possibility does exist that they could see
> >>>> stuff in their account logs on OpenDNS that came from you and
> >>>> you could see theirs.
> >>>>
> >>>> One other slight disadvantage of the OpenDNS system is that
> >>>> all pc's in the house with the same public ip will have the
> >>>> same filters.  You could always active a vpn or proxy on your
> >>>> own pc though and bypass your own filter.
> >>>>
> >>>> Despite these limitations, I found the service extremely
> >>>> useful and wouldn't want to be without it with a child in the
> >>>> house. You could gang other technologies on top of this, if you
> >>>> wish. I still have it active, even though my child has moved
> >>>> out, to filter out rubbish that I might hit accidentally.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is slightly off topic to the original question, but I'd
> >>>> consider a certain amount of monitoring of my kid's
> >>>> communications online.  Chat, email, facebook, whatever.  How
> >>>> much is up to you.  I'd also set rules on who it was
> >>>> appropriate to communicate with.  Again, up to personal
> >>>> discretion.  You can get books about how to deal with these
> >>>> issues.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>
> >>>> Ron
> >>>>
> >>>> On 7/14/2013 8:09 PM, Doug Hall wrote: 27" iMac is sweet. But I
> >>>> agree with Ron. There's no reason to buy ANYTHING if you use
> >>>> OpenDNS to filter content. I'm very satisfied with the free
> >>>> service. Okay, maybe paranoia is a reason. I wouldn't be
> >>>> surprised to know that OpenDNS is releasing records to the NSA.
> >>>> But then again, so could your current ISP. On Sun, Jul 14, 2013
> >>>> at 5:03 PM, Jerald Sheets <questy at gmail.com
> >>>> <mailto:questy at gmail.com>> wrote: I do.  It's a slamming 27"
> >>>> iMac.  :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Jerald Sheets Sent from my iPhone5 On Jul 13, 2013, at 10:20
> >>>> PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com
> >>>> <mailto:jim.kinney at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Jerald, you're missing the entire point: Upgrade _your_ machine
> >>>> and give the old one to the young-uns. Put squid-guard on it
> >>>> and provide a pile of bookmarks they are interested in. :-)
> >>>> House Rule: Dad ALWAYS has the best hardware unless someone
> >>>> else is paying for it. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Neal
> >>>> Rhodes <neal at mnopltd.com <mailto:neal at mnopltd.com>> wrote: I
> >>>> would think you could look for off-lease "no-os" refurb units
> >>>> on TigerDirect for maybe $100.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, 2013-07-13 at 21:22 -0400, Jerald Sheets wrote: Hi
> >>>> all. I've come to the point where my next generation o little
> >>>> ones will be going online, and I'm going to build me a content
> >>>> filtering firewall. (Ipcop) Thing is, I don't have any old
> >>>> hardware and need to get something, but anyth ing I would buy
> >>>> in a store would be overkill. I'm looking for something P3 or
> >>>> later, mid tower with one drive bay is fine and 4-8G of memory.
> >>>> Anyone have anything like that you'd like to unload? Jerald
> >>>> Sheets Sent from my iPhone5
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> >>>> Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail.
> >>>> What you gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like
> >>>> feeding a dog on his own tail. It won't fatten the dog. -
> >>>> Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain http://electjimkinney.org
> >>>> http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/
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