[ale] [OT] Liberties

[Jim Kinney]

I choose to surrender NOTHING for a false sense of security. Laws don't
stop crime.
On Aug 21, 2013 3:27 PM, "Ron Frazier (ALE)" <
atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:

>
>
> JD <jdp at algoloma.com> wrote:
>
> >On 08/21/2013 01:56 PM, leam hall wrote:
> >>
> >> What I don't have an answer for it the balance between justice and
> >privacy.
> >> While Ben Franklin's old quote is a great idea, there are too many
> >bad people in
> >> the world who didn't read it.
> >
> >So the 99.9999999% of good people in the world should give up their
> >privacy and
> >governments shouldn't be held accountable?
> >
> >The terrorist have truly won.
> >
> >I am more afraid of my own government than any acts of terror.
>
> Hi JD,
>
> I am not endorsing the over reaching abuse of our government.  See my
> other post today for commentary.
>
> However, I find your last statement to be fairly radical.
>
> I do not have ANY fear that the workers at NSA, FBI, CIA, etc. will be
> using their power and knowledge to take the lives of 3000 of our citizens
> and destroy billions of dollars of property as the the terrorists did at
> World Trade Center.  Those workers are, almost universally, working to
> prevent OUR lives from ending in a similar manner and protect us from
> threats that we don't even know exist in some cases.  Let's keep a little
> perspective here.
>
> Good people have been giving up rights and privileges due to the actions
> of a small percentage of bad actors since the beginning of the world.
>  There are thousands of laws which we must obey, not because WE would abuse
> our fellow citizens and customers and associates, but because OTHERS would
> abuse them.  Those laws either make it harder for them to abuse or easier
> for us to catch and prosecute them or both.  But, they also make it much
> harder on the good people and limit what we can do.  There's no way around
> this, as a concept.  It's just the way the world will always work as long
> as evil is in play.
>
> The key is to find the right balance of what do you give up to stop the
> bad actors or at least slow them down and catch some of them.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ron
>
>
>
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