[ale] OT: What the hell is XSS in Comcast land?
Jim Kinney
jim.kinney at gmail.com
Tue Aug 13 09:46:34 EDT 2013
point made on wget/curl for browsing. But web browsing is one of the few
area where a single-click command is more powerful than a command line
process. But that's only because the content is so tailored to the single
click. It's still the equivalent of curl foo.html | less
ASCII art has it's places but png is way easier to see :-)
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Lightner, Jeff <JLightner at water.com> wrote:
> Funny thing is even in Windoze land they’re now emphasizing command
> line with Powershell and other tools for server administration over the
> GUIs.****
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> Years ago I did all my work at command line on DOS and when I first had a
> system with Windoze inherited from someone else for a long time I had
> Windoze commented out of the autoexec.bat so it ran in DOS mode.****
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> These days I do find some GUIs (e.g. NetBackup) more pleasant to use than
> TUI or remembering arcane CLI syntax for various commands but in general
> still do 95% of my work in CLI. ****
>
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>
> Imagine having to use lynx, wget or curl to do all your web surfing these
> days…****
>
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> *From:* ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] *On Behalf Of *Jim
> Kinney
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:35 AM
>
> *To:* Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> *Subject:* Re: [ale] OT: What the hell is XSS in Comcast land?****
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> The gui tools are for novices. Always have been and will be. Not trying to
> sound as harsh as it seems but most people in this work know the real power
> is in the keyboard not the mouse. The gui acts like training wheels.
> Learning the command stuff means automation and replication and intense
> customization. It also means ownership. Many competent people continue to
> use a gui because of the ownership issue. Ownership of the process also
> means responsibility for the outcome. ****
>
> Every decent Linux user, not the casual desktop n00b but the people who
> use Linux daily and earn an income from their use, should learn the basics
> of the underlying configuration for things like iptables, networking, user
> administration, service start and stop, and probably a few others.****
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> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:19 AM, JD <jdp at algoloma.com> wrote:****
>
> On 08/12/2013 09:16 PM, Alex Carver wrote:
> > Either way, OpenWRT has long had a UI similar to that for the same
> purpose. It
> > wasn't necessary to use iptables even under older versions of OpenWRT.**
> **
>
> For my locations, the UI is **not** and option. There is just too many
> options
> and settings to be entered and type, tab, type, tab, type, tab for 150
> entries
> doesn't cut it. If that is just the port forwarding and redirection, dno't
> forget about DNS entries, specific IP range blocking, and if you have
> mutliple
> public IPs, it can become impossible to use the GUI.****
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