[ale] Virtualbox in a junky home network

Mon Aug 5 11:22:50 EDT 2013

Well, I don't think you're slow. My description is probably inadequate, so
sorry if I'm confusing you. I didn't realize that the GPU didn't have
anything to do with the guest OS; I assumed it would. Also, I realize just
how diverse a processor line can be - some Core i7's are less desirable
than some Core 2 Quads. But from experience, I know this particular
processor is nearly on-par with a Core 2 Duo clocked at the same speed.
The media server's operation wouldn't be affected(not that it's a huge
priority anyway) - it wouldn't be in use while the VM is running.

In any event, I don't want the NFS software on Windows; I already have NFS
enabled on the host OS. Would it be possible to share files from the guest
using the host like that?

On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:05 AM, JD <jdp at algoloma.com> wrote:

> Sorry, but I still don't understand. I must be slow.
>
> WinXP with NFS? All the NFS stuff I've used on Windows was bloated and
> slow.
>
> The real GPU has next to nothing to do with the virtual GPU seen by the
> clientOS, especially when you aren't local and are running headless. The
> important part is that most cheap laptops steal RAM from the main system
> rather
> than putting real VRAM inside video cards.
>
> There is a big speed difference between intel mobile processors. The model
> matters, but the vt-x and other new instructions matter too.  A PentuimM
> and a
> Core i3 are very different, right?
>
> In the end, until you try it, you'll never know. Regardless, I wouldn't
> plan on
> recording TV at the same time when running vbox.
>
> Or have I mixed up all the different systems and incorrectly judged what
> you want?
>
> On 08/05/2013 10:06 AM, Dustin Strickland wrote:
> > It's the laptop I'm using for a media server. I can't recall the exact
> type of
> > processor, but it's some sort of Intel mobile processor, > 2 GHz with
> slightly
> > less than 3 GB of RAM and a 250 GB 7200 RPM HDD. I know it can handle
> running a
> > VM(even the Pentium-dual core machine can handle that with relative
> ease, but
> > its integrated graphics doesn't support 3d acceleration, which I need
> for the
> > program I'm running). My main question is how(or if it's even possible)
> to
> > integrate the file system of the virtual XP machine into my home
> network. I'm
> > going to be using it for making maps, which I want to make available on
> the DooM
> > mod NFS machine. That way all the other computers in the network can
> access the
> > maps and test them locally.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 5:07 AM, JD <jdp at algoloma.com <mailto:
> jdp at algoloma.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >     Sorry, after all the background, I lost the question - which machine
> did you
> >     want to try and run WinXP inside virtualbox on? CPU, RAM, Disk specs
> for it?
> >
> >     VirtualBox might run on CPUs less than a C2D, but I wouldn't. If you
> care about
> >     VM performance, read this article:
> >
> http://www.jdpfu.com/2012/09/14/solution-for-slow-ubuntu-in-virtualbox It is
> >     the basis of my virtualbox performance presentation.
> >
> >     On 08/04/2013 11:58 PM, Dustin Strickland wrote:
> >     > I wanted to ask a quick question before I invest the time in
> trying to figure
> >     > out how to make it work. Before I begin I would like to throw two
> things out
> >     > there. One, I am broke and use a bunch of bizarre second-hand
> thrown-together
> >     > machines for my home network. Two, I still play DooM. I've gotten
> my younger
> >     > brother into it and he's started to take an interest in making
> maps. However,
> >     > there is no quality software for DooM map-making on Linux and the
> >     > community-standard program for Windows doesn't run under WINE.
> >     >
> >     > Now, I shall elaborate a bit on that first point. My home network
> is pretty
> >     > simple other than using hideously outdated hardware. I have a main
> >     desktop(which
> >     > might be analogous to a workstation in another setup), running
> Linux Mint
> >     15 KDE
> >     > on a Core 2 Quad Q8200. Good enough, but it's easy to bog down
> since I'm
> >     not the
> >     > only one in the house that uses it. This is the one I use for
> personal
> >     storage,
> >     > all other Linux PCs in the house grab /home from here. I'm also
> using an old
> >     > I-don't-even-know-what with LM XFCE 14 on a Pentium 4 dual-core as
> a headless
> >     > NFS server for all of the DooM mods we have, and several other
> irrelevant
> >     > purposes. There are also my 2 old P3 Latitudes running Salix LXDE
> and my mom's
> >     > Win7 Compaq which don't contribute anything to the network.
> >     >
> >     > The machine I want to focus on is the one I haven't yet mentioned.
> It was, at
> >     > one point in time, a laptop. And then it wasn't. And then it was
> bolted
> >     into the
> >     > drywall... And then in a monitor case. And then in an ASUS
> motherboard
> >     box. Now,
> >     > I've rigged up one final case, took the LCD off and have been
> running it as a
> >     > headless media server. I've elected this machine to also take care
> of
> >     running XP
> >     > in Virtualbox so that my brother can make his maps. However, I've
> never
> >     run any
> >     > VM software before, so I'm not too(read:not at all) familiar with
> the
> >     > limitations of it, including what type of integration you could
> have with the
> >     > host OS.
> >     >
> >     > Ideally, I would be able to connect through RDP or some other
> means to run the
> >     > program, do the dirty work, and save it. It would then be
> available on the
> >     > Pentium machine's DooM mod NFS, and thus to every other machine.
> Whichever one
> >     > is convenient to use at the moment would be able to test the map
> locally,
> >     rather
> >     > than having run the game on the VM, which I see as slow,
> inefficient, and
> >     > ugly(as it would require me having scattered copies of mods
> everywhere). Would
> >     > such a setup be possible?
> >     >
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