[ale] OT hackers steal keyless bmw in 3 minutes

Alex Carver agcarver+ale at acarver.net
Thu Sep 20 15:42:40 EDT 2012


That one is scary but almost helpful at the same time.  Their ability to 
stop the engine remotely was tested not too long ago to end a stolen car 
chase.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/07/17/onstar-halts-stolen-car-after-40-mile-trek-from-west-dundee-to-englewood/

On 9/20/2012 12:30, Jim Kinney wrote:
> The scariest one is OnStar having the ability to open the door locks and
> start/stop the engine.
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> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Alex Carver <agcarver+ale at acarver.net>wrote:
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>> On 9/20/2012 07:51, Cameron Kilgore wrote:
>>> I saw someone demonstrate using the radio frequencies many tire sensors
>> use to "hack" a car. I didn't think many embedded systems had access to the
>> brakes.
>>>
>>> I agree, cars need to be pretty dumb. The only security risk I want to
>> deal with in my car is someone else's bad driving.
>>>
>>> --Cameron
>>
>> Blame the car designers for not using isolated CAN bus segments for the
>> critical components. Someone wanted some nifty trick along the way (like
>> limit engine speed if tire pressure is low or apply brakes if tire
>> pressure hits zero) but then that opens up more holes in the bus as more
>> sensors have to talk to critical components.
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