[ale] snarky use of RedHat - heh, heh

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Tue Oct 30 14:48:18 EDT 2012


The RHEV process is built from oVirt. See here for details:
http://www.ovirt.org/

It's built from Fedora 17 so $$=0 which is just a tad less than VMWare :-)

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Beddingfield, Allen <allen at ua.edu> wrote:
> If it is regular RHEL pricing, then we get VMware vSphere Enterprise Plus
> for roughly the same price - maybe a little cheaper, with edu pricing.
>
> --
> Allen Beddingfield
> Systems Engineer
> The University of Alabama
>
>
>
>
> On 10/30/12 7:50 AM, "Scott McBrien" <smcbrien at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Allen,
>>
>>RHEV can either use a RHEL hypervisor (which you pay your normal pricing
>>for RHEL) or a more appliance-y RHEL based distro called RHEV-H which has
>>its own pricing.
>>
>>If you're interested in evaluating RHEV, it might be worth while to take
>>the RH318 training class.  I see a lot of people check it out that way.
>>
>>-Scott
>>
>>On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:59 PM, "Beddingfield, Allen" <allen at ua.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> So what does it end up approximately costing you per-host?  Our cost
>>>per-physical host for RHEL is higher than our cost for VMware Enterprise
>>>Plus on a 4 socket server :)
>>> If we were going that route, I would probably do KVM on SUSE SLES with
>>>the libvirt tools or Citrix XenServer, since we already have both of
>>>those in house.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Allen Beddingfield
>>> Systems Engineer
>>> The University of Alabama
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [ale-bounces at ale.org] on behalf of Jim Kinney
>>>[jim.kinney at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:54 PM
>>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
>>> Subject: Re: [ale] snarky use of RedHat - heh, heh
>>>
>>>
>>> RHEL is a different pricing structure than VMWare. Vmware has limits
>>>per tier on cpu sockets but not redhat.
>>> Virt stuff is all gpl from rh. Manager will be in Centos once no longer
>>>beta. Use licensees for high profile stuff and centos for others.
>>>
>>> On Oct 29, 2012 9:19 PM, "Beddingfield, Allen"
>>><allen at ua.edu<mailto:allen at ua.edu>> wrote:
>>> While I do not doubt that VMware has valid reasons to be quaking in
>>>their boots, I'm not sure that Redhat would be the cause.  From my
>>>experience, they aren't much less expensive than VMware :)  Of course,
>>>my perspective may be a bit skewed. I am in higher-ed, where everything
>>>is influenced by how large the academic discount will be.  Redhat's
>>>academic discounts are small compared with those of their competitors.
>>>It would probably work out more expensive for us to switch to RHEV.
>>> Allen B.
>>> --
>>> Allen Beddingfield
>>> Systems Engineer
>>> The University of Alabama
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: ale-bounces at ale.org<mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org>
>>>[ale-bounces at ale.org<mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org>] on behalf of Jim
>>>Kinney [jim.kinney at gmail.com<mailto:jim.kinney at gmail.com>]
>>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 5:25 PM
>>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
>>> Subject: [ale] snarky use of RedHat - heh, heh
>>>
>>> for those that have known me for a while, my loathing of all things
>>> Microsoft is legendary. I saw the light of FREEDOM in 1992 and fully
>>> embraced "My True Calling" in 1997. But sometimes people pay me to
>>> kick a windwoes machine around the block.
>>>
>>> I finished a set up of RedHat Enterprise Virtualization 3.1 Beta (only
>>> slightly easier than a simultaneous root canal and colonoscopy with no
>>> pain killers.) and they have succeeded in removing the horrid
>>> requirement of needed a WindWoes system to run the RHEV Manager gui.
>>> It's a JBOSS stack and the preferred console interface is spice.
>>>
>>> It works quite well. Some bits are "different" but I am loading up a
>>> Win7 as a test OS. If that pile of crap will load, ANYTHING will run!
>>>
>>> This should have VMWare quaking in their boots.
>>>
>>> Wolf- It finally worked!
>>>
>>> --
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>>> James P. Kinney III
>>>
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>>> gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his
>>> own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
>>> - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain
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Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you
gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his
own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
- Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain

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