[ale] (OT) Minnesota bans Coursera: State takes bold stand against free education.

Sat Oct 20 15:29:16 EDT 2012

If you look at the response, its just an affirmation that they won't
interject with the use in the private spaces. Its a CYA maneuver.

--Cameron
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On Oct 20, 2012 3:18 PM, "Jay Lozier" <jslozier at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 10/19/2012 10:12 PM, Pete Hardie wrote:
> > I saw an update (on Slashdot?) that indicated Minnesota was
> > backpedalling on the ban
> > Pete Hardie
> > --------
> > Better Living Through Bitmaps
> They are. Apparently the best disinfectant for incompetent bureaucrats
> is ridicule.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Jay Lozier <jslozier at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 10/19/2012 02:38 PM, Cameron Kilgore wrote:
> >>
> >> Ice burn!
> >>
> >> Coursera is more useful than most of my college textbooks. Then again,
> I've
> >> always used it post-secondary. I remain skeptical of its use in higher
> ed,
> >> but Minnesota's ban isn't a good start.
> >>
> >> --Cameron
> >> Sent via mobile
> >>
> >> There are two different issues. First is Cousera offering any degrees or
> >> continuing education credit; certificates of completion do not count
> even if
> >> highly regarded. Second is the course content on par with say an
> >> introductory college level computer science course. Coursera does not
> offer
> >> degrees AFAIK does not offer continuing education credit. This means
> they
> >> are offering training and education to any one who wants some form of
> self
> >> improvement. Essentially this is not any different than someone
> studying the
> >> material from a book bought from Amazon. The second issue is trickier
> >> because all the courses are offered by reputable, well known
> universities.
> >> My impression is that the content is generally lower undergraduate
> level but
> >> the requirements to successfully complete are not as rigorous.
> >>
> >> The problem I see with Minnesota's stupidity is it appears that they do
> not
> >> want any competition that can not harass with their rules and
> regulations
> >> with their state university system. Even worse, Coursera is free with
> >> content supplied by other universities. I doubt the morons who signed
> off on
> >> this even bothered to review Coursera's website.
> >>
> >> On Oct 19, 2012 12:36 PM, "Jim Kinney" <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Georgia can't spell "Coursera" yet so they are trying to figure out
> how to
> >>> cash in on Alabama and Tennessee water access.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Derek Atkins <derek at ihtfp.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> States are greedy.
> >>>>
> >>>> Apparently their issue is that Coursera isn't "registered" and isn't
> >>>> paying the state fees associated with said registration.  It almost
> >>>> sounds
> >>>> like something Georgia would do!
> >>>>
> >>>> -derek
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, October 19, 2012 12:18 pm, Jim Kinney wrote:
> >>>>> the world is screwy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Michael Trausch <mike at trausch.us>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I am currently taking a class on this site as is Erica. Mine is a
> >>>>>> logic
> >>>>>> course from Stanford; hers is programming and I think also from
> >>>>>> Stanford.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is the problem with our world? Now we can make free services
> >>>>>> illegal
> >>>>>> too? What the hell happened to criminal activities having to cause
> >>>>>> harm
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> person or property?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> http://mobile.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/10/18/minnesota_bans_coursera_state_takes_bold_stand_against_free_education.html
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> >>>>> *Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What
> you
> >>>>> gain
> >>>>> at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his own
> >>>>> tail.
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> >>> at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his own
> tail.
> >>> It won't fatten the dog.
> >>> - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain
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