[ale] (OT) Minnesota bans Coursera: State takes bold stand against free education.

[Pete Hardie]

I saw an update (on Slashdot?) that indicated Minnesota was
backpedalling on the ban
Pete Hardie
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On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Jay Lozier <jslozier at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/19/2012 02:38 PM, Cameron Kilgore wrote:
>
> Ice burn!
>
> Coursera is more useful than most of my college textbooks. Then again, I've
> always used it post-secondary. I remain skeptical of its use in higher ed,
> but Minnesota's ban isn't a good start.
>
> --Cameron
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>
> There are two different issues. First is Cousera offering any degrees or
> continuing education credit; certificates of completion do not count even if
> highly regarded. Second is the course content on par with say an
> introductory college level computer science course. Coursera does not offer
> degrees AFAIK does not offer continuing education credit. This means they
> are offering training and education to any one who wants some form of self
> improvement. Essentially this is not any different than someone studying the
> material from a book bought from Amazon. The second issue is trickier
> because all the courses are offered by reputable, well known universities.
> My impression is that the content is generally lower undergraduate level but
> the requirements to successfully complete are not as rigorous.
>
> The problem I see with Minnesota's stupidity is it appears that they do not
> want any competition that can not harass with their rules and regulations
> with their state university system. Even worse, Coursera is free with
> content supplied by other universities. I doubt the morons who signed off on
> this even bothered to review Coursera's website.
>
> On Oct 19, 2012 12:36 PM, "Jim Kinney" <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Georgia can't spell "Coursera" yet so they are trying to figure out how to
>> cash in on Alabama and Tennessee water access.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Derek Atkins <derek at ihtfp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> States are greedy.
>>>
>>> Apparently their issue is that Coursera isn't "registered" and isn't
>>> paying the state fees associated with said registration.  It almost
>>> sounds
>>> like something Georgia would do!
>>>
>>> -derek
>>>
>>> On Fri, October 19, 2012 12:18 pm, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>> > the world is screwy.
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Michael Trausch <mike at trausch.us>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I am currently taking a class on this site as is Erica. Mine is a
>>> >> logic
>>> >> course from Stanford; hers is programming and I think also from
>>> >> Stanford.
>>> >>
>>> >> What is the problem with our world? Now we can make free services
>>> >> illegal
>>> >> too? What the hell happened to criminal activities having to cause
>>> >> harm
>>> >> to
>>> >> person or property?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> http://mobile.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/10/18/minnesota_bans_coursera_state_takes_bold_stand_against_free_education.html
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>> James P. Kinney III
>>
>> Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you gain
>> at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his own tail.
>> It won't fatten the dog.
>> - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain
>>
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