[ale] irc server on intranet

[Brian Mathis]

And often many people take this position on their own.  Some people
simply have personal problems with the idea of having a manager, and
the attitude is obvious and problems become a self-fulfilling
prophecy.  There are many people who just want to sit in their cube
and not be bothered by anyone.  That's a self-inflicted problem, not
something created by the job.

But my point was that any tool like this should be presented as a
productivity tool.  If you are trying to hide things, the boss would
notice this and lose trust, but if you do things in the open, it
actually builds trust.  That doesn't mean it won't be painful for a
while if you are in a situation where you need to make this
transition.


❧ Brian Mathis


On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Lightner, Jeff <JLightner at water.com> wrote:
> Yes - everyone can just quit any job they have at the drop of a hat because other people think it isn't a perfect working environment.   This advice rather annoys me almost every time I see it.
>
> The fact is that often management does feel a need to eavesdrop, snoop, or spy on its employees and my guess is that there are far more that do it without you knowing than you're aware of.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Brian Mathis
> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 2:34 PM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [ale] irc server on intranet
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> Jabber/XMPP also supports group chat.  I'm often on IRC (freenode),
> but for a company setup, there's a much better selection of clients
> for XMPP, like Pandion.
>
> I highly recommend using group chat including everyone in your
> department (for example), as you get to see what everyone else is
> talking about, even if it doesn't apply to you.  It's the equivalent
> of overhearing a conversation going on at the next cubicle.  This is
> not about monitoring the peons, and if you think that way, I think you
> need to re-evaluate your relationship with your employer.
>
>
> ❧ Brian Mathis
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:51 PM, chip <chip.gwyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> We use an IRC server at my work.  It's great!  I like it SO much more
>> than just some Instant Messenger.  I like the social aspect of it.
>> Whenever I'm talking to a co-worker in a channel about a problem,
>> everyone else can see and chime in or just watch and learn.  You can
>> still have private communication between users but we find that
>> discussion in an open channel is really helpful.  Our NOC uses it too.
>>  Communication is super easy between everyone and the escalation point
>> people.  They can step in whenever needed, otherwise just watch things
>> come and go.  IRC is probably the most used way to communicate in our
>> organization, at least with the technical/operational folks.
>>
>> It also helps people to socialize a bit, just discussing random things
>> about their lives and what not.
>>
>> --chip
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Collin Pruitt <collin at collinp.com> wrote:
>>> On 2/28/2012 11:13 PM, Narahari 'n' Savitha wrote:
>>>> Friends:
>>>>
>>>> I would like to setup an IRC server on our intranet.  Has anyone in
>>>> this mailing list done it ?  Are there generic guidelines for this ?
>>>>
>>>> -Narahari
>>>>
>>>
>>> I like IRC. I still use it regularly as well, in addition to helping run
>>> a IRC network. However, IRC doesn't have much use unless you're planning
>>> on running a network similar to the ones that already exist (open,
>>> unmoderated), or you want to do some testing. There are better solutions
>>> for intranet communications. Take a look at Jabber, or Bonjour, or any
>>> of the many other solutions.
>>>
>>> If you're still determined to do this, then I could walk you through the
>>> steps off-list on setting up a IRC server of your flavor of choice
>>> (ircd-hybrid, Unreal, ircd-seven [what freenode runs], etc). It's not
>>> that it's especially hard, it's just that there's a lot of places where
>>> it could go wrong and IRC servers are *extremely* picky about that.
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