[ale] Hacking Your Smartphone ( next Thursday's talk)
Richard Bronosky
Richard at Bronosky.com
Fri Feb 10 14:33:47 EST 2012
I want to make sure I don't missed Thursday's talk. I'm not sure when
and where the meeting is and when folks meet up in advance. (I looked
at http://ale.org/ and found "directions" but so much of that site is
out of date, I don't trust it... and there is not time info anyway.)
When, where... and is there and prep that we should do (download)
before we come for this talk?
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Charles Shapiro
<hooterpincher at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ooh, furthermore according to slashdot, UEFI is gonna be mandatory and
> non-configurable on WOA devices. So if you buy one, you will never be
> able to put another OS on it or use it with anything but Microsoft's
> own software. If Microsoft loses interest or you get a new one, your
> only choices will be to disassemble the old one and use what
> components aren't locked up by the software or throw it away.
>
> I suspect that this is mostly Bad News for M$. Seems like they're
> trying to march off Leading the Market in a direction that it won't
> go. Like the IBM PS/2 debacle. Quite a contrast to HTC's policy
> (basically, "Do what you Want, it's your device" (
> http://htcdev.com/bootloader ) )
>
> -- CHS
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
>> can we vote on where to apply the tar, feathers and fence rail? I was
>> thinking to use the fence rail to pack the tar and feathers where his head
>> usually is.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Charles Shapiro <hooterpincher at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks like the choice for open and free smartphones is gonna be
>>> Android and . . . Android. Microsoft's Steven Sinofsky ( prez of
>>> Microsoft's Windows division,
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Sinofsky ), has this to say about
>>> Windows on smartphones (aka Windows 8 on ARM, or WOA ):
>>>
>>> WOA does not support running, emulating, or porting existing x86/64
>>> desktop apps. Code that uses only system or OS services from WinRT can
>>> be used within an app and distributed through the Windows Store for
>>> both WOA and x86/64. Consumers obtain all [WOA] software, including
>>> device drivers, through the Windows Store and Microsoft Update or
>>> Windows Update.
>>>
>>> In short, if you want to develop or run your own software on your own
>>> portable device, Android is It. IOS or Winders won't do. Further, if
>>> you want to develop an application which runs on both a Windows device
>>> and a Windows smartphone, you're going to have to use the Microsoft
>>> delivery system to distribute it. No in-house repositories or distro
>>> methods allowed!
>>>
>>> I for one welcome our new Steve Ballmer overlords. With tar,
>>> feathers, and a fence rail.
>>>
>>> -- CHS
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> James P. Kinney III
>>
>> As long as the general population is passive, apathetic, diverted to
>> consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can do as they
>> please, and those who survive will be left to contemplate the outcome.
>> - 2011 Noam Chomsky
>>
>> http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/
>>
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