[ale] First look at Winders 8

[Charles Shapiro]

OTOH I have been struggling with Eclipse and Android for a couple of days
now.  I've gotten it to believe that my "Hello World" app is actually a
project, but it won't re-generate the R.java file, which is created from
the various and sundry XML files which specify things like screens and
strings.  It's an ongoing wrangle, but I could sure use someone who really
knows Eclipse, even though I've already created the application at the
command-line.

-- CHS


On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Mike Harrison <cluon at geeklabs.com> wrote:

> Shapiro waxed poetic:
>
>  So heck, maybes this is the Way the World will Go, and us happy
>> hard-workin' coders will merely be weird old fossils in a universe of
>> sunglasses-wearing HTML writers.
>>
>
> In the real world, where bandwidth, CPU, memory,
> and -long term- reliability and maintainability are issues,
> fossils like us kick ass,
>
> I can get more done with just a shell on a far away linux system than most
> "developers" can do using the latest IDE and kewl language of the week.
>
> 10 lines of perl can be a powerful thing.
>
> Three weeks ago I tought a young man to not trust his IDE with all the
> supported options and commands. His code would not connect. It did not
> have: CURLOPT_SSL_VERIFYPEER and CURLOPT_SSL_VERIFYHOST as options in his
> IDE, he did not RTFM. While the people that built the drop down pick-list
> of PHP options may have had valid reasons for not including these standard
> options, he had become so dependant upon these crutches he was limited by
> them. He had to connect to an internal IP address with a self-signed cert.
> Impossible he said.. He was not comfortable with a shell on the production
> server, or scp.. or.. or.. and was cutting and pasting code chunks from
> Eclipse into a server side web based file browser.... But he was very
> bright.
>
> A recent email from Antony exposes that he is playing with ssh, scp,
> Geany, jEdit and vi and learning to "get naked with code" in his words.
> Antony is starting to understand where an IDE is useful, and that there
> are sometimes more appropriate options. It is A tool, it should not be
> your only tool.
>
> The role of us old fossils is to expose follies and teach.
> Sometimes with a clue bat in our hands.
>
>
>
>
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