[ale] way OT - used car buying tips - yea or nea - PT 2

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Mon Dec 3 16:51:10 EST 2012


When it runs, it's fun. When it's not running it's a time and cash black
hole.
Google images for Porsche 924 turbo.  :-)  mine is an almost stock white
1981 model.
On Dec 3, 2012 3:22 PM, "Boris Borisov" <bugyatl at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would say nice toy :)
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Or a hose cracks at a fitting.
> > I'm replacing all the vacuum lines on the toy car with thick walled
> silicon
> > ones.  The Porsche intake system is hyper-sensitive to vacuum leaks.
> > Stranded the SWMBO once and am STILL in the doghouse for it.
> >
> > On Dec 1, 2012 8:23 PM, "Boris Borisov" <bugyatl at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> In today cars you have engine attached to bunch of computers not
> >> computer helping the engine to run.
> >>
> >> Just joking :)
> >>
> >> But sometimes this engine/computer ecosystem looks so fragile. You
> >> pull one hose and nothing works :)
> >>
> >> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE)
> >> <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi guys,
> >> >
> >> > I just wanted to give you a quick update about an annoying experience
> >> > with my wife's car so you can avoid similar trouble.  As I mentioned
> before,
> >> > as part of my efforts to save fuel, I was planning to install K&N high
> >> > performance air filters on both vehicles.  Well, I'm no mechanic, but
> I
> >> > figured just snap the latches off the air box, swap the filter
> cartridge,
> >> > snap the lid back on.  Even I could handle that.  So, that's what I
> did.
> >> > Well, this morning, my wife reports that the car is skipping and
> sputtering
> >> > and the check engine light is on.  Oh drat!  I take a quick look at
> the air
> >> > filter, but everything looks fine.  I swap vehicles with her and take
> the
> >> > car to the mechanic.  Before I see him, I pull the fault codes from
> the car
> >> > using my OBD2 interface and my Android tablet.  It was complaining
> about the
> >> > mass air flow system.  So, I met the mechanic and told him what had
> >> > happened.  It took him about 10 seconds to diagnose the problem.  In
> the
> >> > process of changing the filte!
> >>
> >>  r,!
> >> >   I had inadvertantly dislodged the pipe where the air leaves the
> filter
> >> > box and enters the engine.  So, the car was getting completely
> unfiltered
> >> > air, and the mass air flow sensor wasn't detecting any air flow, so
> the
> >> > computer was unhappy, and it didn't know how to control the engine
> properly.
> >> > It took him another two minutes to fix the problem and he didn't even
> charge
> >> > me.  Afterwards, I hooked my tablet back up and cleared the check
> engine
> >> > light and the car is happy and things are back to normal.
> >> >
> >> > So, the moral of the story is, if you change your air filter yourself,
> >> > don't disconnect any pipes.  I'm glad we found the problem and fixed
> it.
> >> > What's a little scary is that, the only reason it caused a problem is
> that
> >> > the car is all computerized.  That tells me two things.  One, you
> ain't
> >> > running if the computer is unhappy.  And two, if it had been a non
> >> > computerized car like an older carburetor driven vehicle or my old
> Mercedes,
> >> > it would have run just fine without the filter pipe attached, maybe
> even
> >> > better.  I could have gone on for years with no air filter and
> potentially
> >> > damaged the engine.  Well, live and learn.  Hopefully, you guys can
> avoid
> >> > similar issues.
> >> >
> >> > Sincerely,
> >> >
> >> > Ron
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my Android Acer A500 tablet with bluetooth keyboard and K-9
> >> > Mail.
> >> > Please excuse my potential brevity.
> >> >
> >> > (To whom it may concern.  My email address has changed.  Replying to
> >> > former
> >> > messages prior to 03/31/12 with my personal address will go to the
> wrong
> >> > address.  Please send all personal correspondence to the new address.)
> >> >
> >> > (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want
> to
> >> > call on the phone.  I get about 300 emails per day from alternate
> energy
> >> > mailing lists and such.  I don't always see new email messages very
> >> > quickly.)
> >> >
> >> > Ron Frazier
> >> > 770-205-9422 (O)   Leave a message.
> >> > linuxdude AT techstarship.com
> >> >
> >> >
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