[ale] pay rates vs. experience

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Sat Apr 28 11:06:34 EDT 2012


And your next ALE talk topic will be...?
:-)
On Apr 28, 2012 10:53 AM, "Ed Cashin" <ecashin at noserose.net> wrote:

> Sometimes when I get unsolicited inquiries from potential employers, I try
> to find out why they're contacting me.  It is usually because of publicly
> visible activities I've engaged in that show I am doing interesting things
> and am motivated, like:
>
>   * participating in highly technical usenet discussions (obsolete as
> such, but
>     a current version would be stackoverflow or something)
>
>   * writing articles in magazines (SysAdmin is defunct, but Linux Journal
> is still
>     around)
>
>   * speaking at open source conferences like SCALE
>
> Now I'm at a gig where I have so much to do that I don't get time to do
> these highly visible things.  But if I wanted to get more marketable
> quickly for jobs using open source, I'd solve a real and interesting
> problem using open source and give a talk about it at an open source
> conference.
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Matthew <simontek at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well here's the thing, a lot of places this day in age don't care that
>> I have used linux since the 90's. They want to see I have papers.
>> Since getting a degree isn't likely at this point, getting the certs
>> are easier to do. Why did I get my linux+, LPIC 1, cla? Cause it was
>> required for me to do IA for uncle sam. But since the rhce has come
>> out, I have always wanted it, so figure to get it while I work at a
>> company that will cover my certs. I figure work for the USMC for 2
>> years, and I should be able to work anywhere.
>>
>> On 4/27/12, Mike Harrison <cluon at geeklabs.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Jim Kinney wrote:
>> >
>> >> I unsubscribed him.
>> >
>> > The problem is "Lead" (a person whom sets a path or example)
>> > and "Lead" (symbol Pb, atomic number 82) are often confused.
>> >
>> > Which is what happens to many credentials and titles. A RHCE or other
>> > credentialed person might be a dolt, whom passed the test (however hard)
>> > but have (techical and/or personal) issues that make them a rolling
>> train
>> > wreck.
>> >
>> > Credentials should be evaluated as part of the overall person.
>> > Sometimes, very clueful people survive the educational and certification
>> > process.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --Mike--
>> >
>> > Favorite title:  Arrogant Geek Bastard.
>> >
>> >
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