[ale] Sabayon

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Sat Apr 21 21:24:24 EDT 2012


So a broader question is for what types of tasks is a general purpose pc
more energy efficient for than other means of achieving the desired end
goal?
 On Apr 21, 2012 7:46 PM, "Jeff Hubbs" <jhubbslist at att.net> wrote:

>  It amounts to very little over the useful life of the instance - and even
> less compared to the amount of energy it took to build and ship the
> computer.
>
> On 4/21/12 7:01 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>
> Ah, gentoo. I'm waiting for the analysis looking at power consumed for
> compiling everything vs power saved from having a highly optomised system.
> How much time must elapse between updates to get a power or time
> performance payoff.
> Not ragging on Jeff (or gentoo for that matter). I've just been doing a
> fai amount of power analysis lately and that struck me as an interesting
> question.
> On Apr 21, 2012 4:44 PM, "Jeff Hubbs" <jhubbslist at att.net> wrote:
>
>> The similar package manager ("Portage") in Gentoo Linux has definitely
>> been one of its big draws for over a decade.
>>
>> On 4/21/12 2:31 PM, arxaaron wrote:
>> > The current issue of Linux Format featured Sabayon in their
>> > Distrowatch segment. was very complimentary of
>> > Sabayon.  They liked that it come up in XFCE but
>> > also supported Cinnamon (the customized Gnome 3
>> > from the Mint distro) and Razor QT as optional
>> > packages.
>> >
>> > They are a plus on the "Ports" package manager as well.
>> >
>> >
>> > peace
>> > aaron
>> >
>> > On 2012/04/21, at 10:22 , Damon L. Chesser wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 13:25 -0400, Scott Denlinger wrote:
>> >>> I agree with you about Debian, but do you have a particular NEED to
>> >>> run Sid on
>> >>> your desktop? Surely you know that's Debian's unstable version? Why
>> >>> not try
>> >>> testing? I'm running that, and it effectively is as reliable as the
>> >>> "stable"
>> >>> distribution, and gets you more up to date software than the stable
>> >>> distribution.
>> >>>
>> >>> Scott Denlinger
>> >> Scott,
>> >>
>> >> Yes, I do know that.  I run Sid because that is what the Ubers do. At
>> >> least that is what I thought in 2000.  Sure it breaks, but it also
>> >> gets
>> >> fixed quicker then testing.  Nobody cares if testing breaks ;)
>> >>
>> >> My interest in Sabayon is this:  The Ports package system rocks, and
>> >> it
>> >> rocks, and it also rocks.  Though, it IS nice, if you go to
>> >> Sourceforge
>> >> and find a cool project, they almost always have two packages,
>> >> source gz
>> >> and .deb.
>> >>
>> >> I do not want Ubuntu.  I hate Unity. While it (Ubuntu) works (mostly)
>> >> you are out of luck if something you want does not work because the
>> >> project decided to take an unsupported tweak or non-upstream adopted
>> >> "fix".  No such issue with Debian.  And if you run Sid, you are always
>> >> head of Ubuntu.
>> >>
>> >> I guess after 12 years, you can just get that itch where you forget
>> >> about the one who brought you to the dance.
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps Linux users are not meant to be single distro users.  I mean
>> >> it
>> >> might not even be natural?
>> >>
>> >> I considered FreeBSD, but I think they suck as a desktop (because of
>> >> the
>> >> lack of current drivers for desktop things).  OpenSolaris, Ilumos and
>> >> family look real, real interesting, but I think not as a desktop,
>> >> but as
>> >> a testbed (can anybody say ZFS, that is where all that development is
>> >> happing at, and it is NOT being put back into solaris, as well as some
>> >> really cool cloud things in a few opensolaris distros)
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, just a few things I have been pondering.
>> >>
>> >>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:50:08AM -0400, Chesser.Damon wrote:
>> >>>> Running Debian Sid for a desktop.  Getting tired (after 10+ years)
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> small breakages rotating through my desktop.  Been thinking about
>> >>>> Sabayon.  Not trying to start a religious war here (we all know
>> >>>> Debian
>> >>>> is the one true Linux way), but does anybody have experience with
>> >>>> this
>> >>>> distro?
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >> --
>> >> Damon
>> >> damon at damtek.com
>> >>
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