[ale] Micro$oft blocking Linux booting in hardware

[Scott Castaline]

On 10/21/2011 01:07 PM, Tim Watts wrote:
> I think the concern is that microsoft is planning to REQUIRE UEFI in
> order to boot Windows 8 and that manufacturers MAY NOT allow other
> "unauthorized" OSes to boot under UEFI (either because it's easier not
> to or possibly as an M$ requirement). There are no definitive claims
> about this in the campaign. It seems to be an effort to create a ground
> swell to make manufacturers aware before it's too late that such an
> approach would be unacceptable.
>
> If Windows 8 forces you to monkey with BIOS setting in order to boot
> over to Linux, that would suck. It would only serve to isolate Linux
> further from users with less than super-geek capabilities.
Tim, what you're saying is exactly what I said on another mail list, 
(not mentioning any names but libreoffice, oh dear it slipped:-)). One 
individual came after me double barreled shot gun after me, and I was 
just re-commenting what someone else had said. A couple of members 
seemed to have chosen to ignore me since all the shooting started. 
Probably all M$ Droids or Drones, just like the Borg.
>
> On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 12:18 -0400, Rich Faulkner wrote:
>> I have yet to read about this so may be chiming in too early but...
>>
>> If the issue is UEFI related all you have to do is disable that in the
>> BIOS or lower it in priority of the boot sequence so that it doesn't
>> invoke.  Flash a legacy BIOS (if available as well) but keep in mind
>> that EFI/UEFI are standards that allow you to make your own pre-boot
>> environment.  Worth further reading online and originally developed by
>> Intel as "The Framework" if memory serves....RinL
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 09:34 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
>>> Mike Harrison<cluon at geeklabs.com>  writes:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 20 Oct 2011, Bob Toxen wrote:
>>>>> http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement
>>>> Done.
>>>>
>>>> Remember the real vote is with your wallet. Support the hardware
>>>> manufacturers that support your choice in OS. Which, while it goes
>>>> without saying, they usually have little knowledge that you are using
>>>> their hardware with Linux. As a group, we tend to just "make it work",
>>>> It helps a lot to let the manufacturer and/or retailer know you
>>>> bought it because it works with Linux.
>>> my understanding is that there would be a BIOS switch to turn this off.
>>>
>>> -derek
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