[ale] alternatives to Wiki info

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Wed Oct 19 14:49:30 EDT 2011


Ouch. Importing html into word then back to html will cause much misery.
Bluefish is a great html editor but designed for developers.
Mediawiki will accept ckeditor and tinymce. Both are great onscreen edutors
that are familiar and simple enough for noobs yet have advanced features for
others.
On Oct 19, 2011 10:44 AM, "Narahari &#39;n&#39; Savitha" <
savithari at gmail.com> wrote:

> I tried using the extensions but not much ease of use.  I really want to be
> able to edit html doc in word, convert to html, save to a server.
>
> A search on top of it is a good idea.too.  I think the conversion to Wiki
> format and the image stuff is a pain.
>
> -Narahari
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:06 AM, JD <jdp at algoloma.com> wrote:
>
>> I've found that for media wiki to be used by end-users, a GUI editor
>> add-on is needed.  Last time I looked, there were a few plugins for this
>> available, but I've never used them.  I think Copy/Paste RTF works with
>> at least 1.
>>
>> Have you considered the mediawiki macro for OpenOffice/LibreOffice?  It
>> will save those files into a mediawiki-compatible format that can be
>> copied/pasted in.
>>
>> The other solution is to deploy a document management system like
>> Alfresco.  It is a big, complex solution and the GUI leaves much to be
>> desired. OTOH, it does support full-text indexing for most formats, has
>> CIFS, webdav, nfs, and a webGUI interface built-in.  It is really
>> designed as a back-end server with the intent that the company would
>> either create their own custom front-end or pay another vendor to do
>> this.  whitehouse.gov runs on Drupal + Alfresco.  Alfresco deployments
>> inside serious companies usually run $200K (mostly paying people), but
>> if you are willing to live with the out of the box "community edition",
>> it is just 3-4 hours of work.
>>
>> You can host anything inside Alfresco, but if you put video in there,
>> well, that's probably not a best practice. Creating a workflow to upload
>> a video, force metadata capture and push the video itself to another
>> online-store is a better idea, IMHO. You'll want lots of validation
>> routines to keep the Alfresco / Video-store matched.  Anything is
>> possible with enough effort.  I've seen Alfresco front-ends that look
>> like cnn.com or any of the huge media outlets.
>>
>> I can recommend some Alfresco knowledgeable companies, if you have
>> budget.  The thing to keep in mind is that these folks are replacing
>> Documentum with Alfresco, so a $200K deployment is a bargain compared to
>> a $2M+ deployment.
>>
>> Another option is a redmine server. You may already have one. I don't
>> think it indexes documents or has any built-in versioning for documents,
>> but it does have a project-based document store, wiki, and VCS
>> integrations. Bewteen those 3 things, you might find what you need. 2
>> hours or so to setup if you need to learn how RoR works. Much less if not.
>>
>> Both of these connect to LDAP directories for user logins, if you like.
>>  Or not.
>>
>> Wikis are fantastic for what they can do, but if the end users don't
>> contribute as a way-of-life, it becomes a dead document store.  For
>> programmers and sys admins, I cannot think of a better way to store
>> information than a Wiki.  The line-by-line versioning makes it perfect
>> for keeping up with environment changes.  I like that there's no need
>> for some-other-tool besides a browser to edit too.
>>
>> OTOH, I doubt your accounting department will ever create a wiki page.
>>
>> Good luck. Please let us know what you decide and how it works out.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/19/2011 09:13 AM, Narahari 'n' Savitha wrote:
>> > Friends:
>> >
>> > We at work use Wiki to store hints/tips/information about our
>> > environments etc.,
>> >
>> > The media wiki server is   local to our intranet. It is working fine.
>> >
>> > However the pain involved in converting to Wiki format from M$Office,
>> > OpenOffice, LIbreOffice is really not fun.
>> >
>> > If it involves images GOD save us.
>> >
>> > ==========================================
>> >
>> > In the above context, is there a pure HTML based document storage, out
>> > of the box framework.
>> >
>> > No coding, just create doc in any Office suite convert to HTML then just
>> > put it there easily.
>> >
>> > Provide any solutions you have used and/or heard off that is easy to
>> > install too.
>> >
>> > Very important :  It should be searchable easily.  If it can host video
>> > its even better.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > -Narahari
>> >
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