[ale] .NET considered harmful

[Charles Shapiro]

Please to note that my opinion on duels may differ from Mr. Kinney's.
 If challenged, however, pistols are not my weapon of choice.

-- CHS

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
> It's not irony that Aaron and I are loud opponents of the coporapist status
> quo. It stand as the very antithesis of the philosophy that founded GNU and
> allowed the Linux kernel to flourish.
>
> culling is done with the "unsubsribe" button available to everyone
> individually. Even though I have been the list admin for a few years now,
> and had many a political knock-down, drag out fight, on the list, I have
> never dumped anyone off the list because of their attitude, political
> leaning, discourse or poor writing skills. I have no intention to ever do
> that as I find it to be morally repugnant and the total opposite of the
> philosophy behind OpenSource stuff.
>
> That said, I have and will continue to have off list discussions with people
> who are attacking individuals on the list. I will not grouse, except as a
> retort, to generalized attacks against a group that has voluntary
> affiliation. People choose to use an OS, or a bookstore or align themselves
> with a political viewpoint. That choice is, when made public in a public
> forum, fair game for questioning and/or verbal and philosophical attack. The
> ferrocity of such a processes will be determined by the perceived
> foolishness or potential harm to others. It is the way most people do things
> albeit with not quite so much of a public aspect.
>
> The interesting aspect of this kind of behavior in an email format is it is
> preserved for all of posterity and doesn't require that one person
> physically shout louder than another in order to be heard. It is, nasty as
> it looks, far more civilized than earlier methods of argumentative
> discourse. Thankfully, most ALErs are likely supporters of the ban on
> dueling :-) I know am. And I'm a mostly lousy shot at 20 paces!
>
> So if someone is offended by the lit gasoline I pour on their economic
> methods, use the light of the flames to get a closer look at the
> underpinnings of their beliefs and mine. I welcome the scrutiny as I am
> always looking to become a better person by finding faults and producing
> better methods.
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Steve Brown <scbrown3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It is not possible to have a meaningful discussion of philosophical or
>>> social processes on ALE. The intellectual background of the major
>>> participants is simple too insufficient to allow for a high level discussion
>>> as current society is in a permanent state of ADHD, 30 second sound bite
>>> mode.
>>
>> Or maybe, and I speak for myself here, ALErs realize such a topic doesn't
>> belong within the context of a linux mailing list. Ironically, two of ALEs
>> top contributors are responsible for this. The odd thing is, I'm not sure
>> exactly what your angle is, what you hope to accomplish, and I'm not sure
>> why you choose ALE to be the forum for your politic pushing.
>>
>> I respect the work you and Aaron do for ALE very much, and I actually do
>> enjoy reading Aaron's political ramblings from time to time. I guess it's
>> just time for another ALE culling?
>>
>> Please note I do not necessarily agree or disagree with your political
>> philosophies; I simply do not want them to be brought up as they are now
>> because it alienates people for really no reason. It is harmfully off topic.
>>
>> -Steve Brown
>>
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