[ale] ubuntu install has no $PATH?

Rich Faulkner rfaulkner at 34thprs.org
Tue Jul 26 12:22:25 EDT 2011


Tempting.  That will run on PowerPC will it not?


On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 11:25 -0400, Jim Kinney wrote:
> Oops. My bad. What I was looking at (upside down and no glasses) was a
> box top that said Caldera Systems.
> 
> It is a full Open Linux 2.3 from caldera systems. It has applixware
> 4.4.2, star office 5.1, and WordPerfect 8. Not the tool set you were
> looking for.
> 
> You can still have it! It has the box, 3 cd's and the book. I have an
> applixware book I'll throw in for only double the money, $0!
> 
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Rich Faulkner
> <rfaulkner at 34thprs.org> wrote:
>         Yeah!  I had it in the OEM boxing (and may still - dunno).
>          Didn't see
>         it at the GGG...silly me!
>         
>         Thanks!
>         
>         Do you have original media/boxing?  I could come by to get it
>         as I live
>         close by...
>         
>         
>         
>         On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 10:54 -0400, Jim Kinney wrote:
>         > I still have corel linux here (packrat giveaway didn't get
>         all the
>         > hiding places!). Want it?
>         >
>         > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Rich Faulkner
>         > <rfaulkner at 34thprs.org> wrote:
>         >         Ah, Photoshop.  I can understand why he keeps to
>         it.  I'm a
>         >         graphics guy
>         >         too and although I can live w/o Photoshop I do
>         prefer
>         >         CorelDraw (which
>         >         BTW did have a Linux distro back in the 90's called
>         Corel
>         >         Linux that
>         >         included their graphics suite - or at least part of
>         it).  I
>         >         keep a VM of
>         >         windows around for CorelDraw 10 for which I'm
>         partial.  Not
>         >         too big on
>         >         Inkscape or Gimp so far but too used to the graphics
>         tools
>         >         that I've
>         >         used for over over a decade and a half.  Thus I see
>         where he's
>         >         coming
>         >         from...
>         >
>         >         ...hmmm...makes me wonder if I still have my copy of
>         Corel
>         >         Linux?  I
>         >         know I had Photo Paint to go with it...
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >         On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 10:32 -0400, Jim Kinney wrote:
>         >         > So call with my friend last night and his solution
>         was to
>         >         blow away
>         >         > the install and install fedora 14 and all the
>         updates. A few
>         >         google
>         >         > checks on how to install rpmfusion
>         multi-media-everything
>         >         and adobe
>         >         > flash with the yum repo from both and he's all
>         good to go.
>         >         >
>         >         > The hardware is a 6 year old laptop with a dead
>         battery and
>         >         a totally
>         >         > flaky keyboard and touchpad. Were this for him he
>         would have
>         >         thrown
>         >         > out the laptop but it's for an elderly neighbor
>         who wants to
>         >         just use
>         >         > gmail to keep up with the grandkids.
>         >         >
>         >         > I suspect the bad keyboard was an issue but have
>         no way of
>         >         testing as
>         >         > he's out of town relative to me.
>         >         >
>         >         > Now if I can get him to STOP USING PHOTOSHOP
>         (photographer)
>         >         and use
>         >         > the gimp (book: "the gimp for photographers" is at
>         >         microcenter!) he'll
>         >         > cut all ties and be fully in Linux land.
>         >         >
>         >         > On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Jim Kinney
>         >         <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
>         >         > wrote:
>         >         >         A friend who is a very green Linux user
>         installed
>         >         Ubuntu
>         >         >         (latest whatever version) and went to
>         install adobe
>         >         flash. It
>         >         >         required some command line-fu (which he
>         didn't have)
>         >         so he
>         >         >         called me.
>         >         >
>         >         >         -> I'm not an ubuntu person <-
>         >         >
>         >         >         So I was trying to find out what file type
>         he was
>         >         trying to
>         >         >         install so I asked hi to open a terminal
>         (he was in
>         >         the normal
>         >         >         X session) and run ls and tell me the name
>         of the
>         >         file he
>         >         >         downloaded.
>         >         >
>         >         >         It errored with "no command or file by
>         than name".
>         >         So I had
>         >         >         him do a "pwd". Same error. Ditto on "echo
>         $PATH"
>         >         >
>         >         >         W   T   F    !!!!!
>         >         >
>         >         >         the command he _needed_ to run was sudo
>         apt-get
>         >         flash.....
>         >         >         but he couldn't recall if it was saved in
>         the
>         >         Downloads
>         >         >         directory or the home directory. So he
>         tried to cd
>         >         and it
>         >         >         failed.
>         >         >
>         >         >         Unfortunately, we were talking over the
>         cell phones
>         >         while I
>         >         >         was in a busy and loud store so literally
>         spelling
>         >         out each
>         >         >         letter of a working PATH "alpha bravo
>         charlie" style
>         >         was not
>         >         >         going to happen.
>         >         >
>         >         >         Now I have been pretty harsh on messed up
>         distro
>         >         stupids in
>         >         >         the past but I can't fathom how an install
>         could
>         >         complete and
>         >         >         leave no working path variables set.
>         >         >
>         >         >         Any ideas how during an install (that
>         appeared to
>         >         conclude
>         >         >         correctly) Ubuntu could have left off
>         PATH? More
>         >         importantly,
>         >         >         ideas on how to NOT recreate this?
>         >         >
>         >         >         --
>         >         >         --
>         >         >         James P. Kinney III
>         >         >
>         >         >         As long as the general population is
>         passive,
>         >         apathetic,
>         >         >         diverted to consumerism or hatred of the
>         vulnerable,
>         >         then the
>         >         >         powerful can do as they please, and those
>         who
>         >         survive will be
>         >         >         left to contemplate the outcome.
>         >         >         - 2011 Noam Chomsky
>         >         >
>         >         >         http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         > --
>         >         > --
>         >         > James P. Kinney III
>         >         >
>         >         > As long as the general population is passive,
>         apathetic,
>         >         diverted to
>         >         > consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the
>         powerful
>         >         can do as
>         >         > they please, and those who survive will be left to
>         >         contemplate the
>         >         > outcome.
>         >         > - 2011 Noam Chomsky
>         >         >
>         >         > http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/
>         >         >
>         >
>         >
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>         > --
>         > --
>         > James P. Kinney III
>         >
>         > As long as the general population is passive, apathetic,
>         diverted to
>         > consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful
>         can do as
>         > they please, and those who survive will be left to
>         contemplate the
>         > outcome.
>         > - 2011 Noam Chomsky
>         >
>         > http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/
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> James P. Kinney III
> 
> As long as the general population is passive, apathetic, diverted to
> consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can do as
> they please, and those who survive will be left to contemplate the
> outcome.
> - 2011 Noam Chomsky
> 
> http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/
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