[ale] Data not safe on ssds

[Greg Freemyer]

Jim,

Did your colleague generate a paper?  Is it available to the public?

I'm trying to collect docs like that.

FYI: I talked to Scott Moultan in Kennesaw.  I guess he's the
unofficial Atlanta guru on data recovery from damaged media.  He
agrees with your colleague, but I don't think he's published anything
about it.

Thanks
Greg

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
> A colleague did a funded research project a while back on the data
> retention and retrieval methods for erased media. Erasing methods
> included government high security methods (bazillion writes of
> specialized fields, etc). According to him, SSDs can't be erased fully
> by any current technology. The only acceptable way to ensure data
> destruction is to grind the chips to dust and incinerate the dust.
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm looking at the list of tools they used on the chart and I don't
>> see thermite, hammer, car, etc.   What's up with that?
>>
>> Given how bad the ones they tested did, I really do think they should
>> have included an array of physical solutions.
>>
>> ie. How does running the thumb drive over it with a car work?  What
>> about a 12-ounce hammer? etc.?
>>
>> fyi: I got one in for recovery last year that appeared to have been
>> put in a microwave.  Assuming that's what happened, it worked really
>> well.  We de-soldered the chips to try and directly access the NAND
>> chips.  Nada.  Not that I expected it to work, but we really wanted to
>> know more about that thumb drive.
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Geoffrey Myers
>> <lists at serioustechnology.com> wrote:
>>> Interesting article:
>>>
>>> http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/02/17/1911217/Confidential-Data-Not-Safe-On-Solid-State-Disks
>>>
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Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist
http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer
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