[ale] How to test your public internet connection for open ports
Ron Frazier
atllinuxenthinfo at c3energy.com
Fri Feb 11 22:31:52 EST 2011
Michael W.,
Yes, you were passionate. I don't think there was anything too too over
the top. But, thanks very much for the note though.
Ron
On 02/11/2011 06:38 PM, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> Hey Ron,
>
> Yeah, I know you addressed this to Michael T. Sometimes I type before I
> look and I've done that more that once in this thread. Still,
> somethings are just as applicable to me.
>
> On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 16:51 -0500, Ron Frazier wrote:
>
>> Michael T.,
>>
>
>> For what it's worth, I just responded to Wolf's post and publicly
>> acknowledged your and Michael W's, and others' expertise.
>>
>
>> I too agree that we've beaten the horse pretty good. So, I will be
>> winding down the discussion. You chose to make these long replies,
>> which I will review, and selectively reply if I think the reply is
>> relevant and hasn't been addressed.
>>
>
>> However, having said that, many of the things which you said in the
>> message I snipped below either border on, or are outright personal
>> attacks on me. I resent that, and I feel it's not appropriate. I'm
>> politely asking you to stop that.
>>
> I can't speak for Michael T. I can only speak for myself. Don't take
> any of what's been said personally. Some of us (me especially) can get
> pretty intense over subjects we're passionate about. It happens that
> Michael T. and I share a passion for security and that really takes a
> different way of thinking that can sometimes be hard to explain. Like
> Bruce Schneier likes to say, "we don't think like other people". And I
> know I certainly have a reputation for being rather brusk and abrasive
> at times. [Nobody start piling in on that, ok?]
>
> Over the years many of us have developed pretty think hides and I've
> been flamed plenty of times and made plenty of mistakes myself. Stuck
> my foot in my mouth often enough that "fillet de sole" becomes a
> familiar taste. And I even made more that a couple of mistakes in this
> thread by typing without thinking, not the least of which was forgetting
> the whole thing with TCP defaulting to RESETs and not ICMP UNREACH.
> DoH! I know better. There were a couple of others. Suffice it to say,
> even if you return ALL the right error codes, you really can never be
> "invisible" on the net. Some of us are advanced enough to see through
> even that (exercise left to the readers). It's certain that if the bad
> guys want you bad enough they can too.
>
> If I said anything you felt was too personal or too ad hominem, my
> apologies, no offense was intended.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
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