[ale] GIS in 2012 - What's New

Charles Shapiro hooterpincher at gmail.com
Thu Dec 15 17:10:36 EST 2011


Shrug.  Okay. Phar be it from me to start a flame war.  Even Hitler and the
Nazis didn't like those!

I am using postGIS & QGIS on a daily basis at my current job, and I can
attest that they are well-designed and easy to use, and they produce
accurate, repeatable results in formats which are compatible with most
other mapping software.  From what I am hearing, none of these things are
true of the fantastically expensive alternative.

-- CHS


On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:

> Only because the client code will run on Linux and they do the promo only
> once a year and they are subscribed and I only kill the list in a flame
> war. People ask for help from ale on winders problems as well.
> Arcgis is insufficient compared to the open tools like gissgrass and open
> map server.
> On Dec 15, 2011 9:47 AM, "Charles Shapiro" <hooterpincher at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Why are these people pushing proprietary garbaggio like ARCGIS on an open
>> source mailing list?  PostGIS ( http://postgis.refractions.net/ ) and
>> QGIS ( http://postgis.refractions.net/ ) are free, open, and accurate.
>> What they don't tell you about ARCGIS is that it cannot store geographic
>> information accurately -- every time you bring up a map, the points on that
>> map will have moved randomly by as much as a couple of meters.  This is an
>> inherent limitation of ARCGIS buried deep in the software and is unlikely
>> to be fixed in the near future.  The open alternatives do not suffer from
>> this trouble.
>>
>> -- CHS
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Gina Clemmer, New Urban Research <
>> nur at urban-research.info> wrote:
>>
>>>  We wanted to let those on the list know about our 2012 class schedule
>>> and provide some info on ArcGIS software. In particular, our January
>>> tele-class series begins on January 4th.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We will be teaching two versions of our GIS Essentials™ Workshop, a
>>> tele-class -- which can be taken from anywhere -- and a live workshop
>>> offered in various locations.
>>>
>>>
>>> GIS Essentials™ Workshop - Live One Day Class
>>>
>>> *Cities include:* Los Angeles, Austin, Phoenix, San Francisco, Chicago,
>>> Portland, Honolulu and Seattle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This one-day workshop is designed to teach essential GIS (Geographic
>>> Information System) skills as indicated by a survey of 500 GIS
>>> professionals. The workshop focuses on teaching the fundamentals of ArcGIS
>>> with updated information on accessing and mapping 2010 Census data.
>>> Government agencies, non-profits and universities will find the workshop
>>> particularly relevant. Gina Clemmer, author of the book The GIS 20:
>>> Essential Skills published by ESRI Press, will teach these workshops.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Registration: $595 (Includes class fee, light breakfast, lunch and a
>>> copy of the book The GIS 20: Essential Skills)
>>> Software: ArcGIS 10/10.1
>>>
>>> More Info/Registration: http://www.nur-online.com/workshops<http://p.ss31.nur-online.com/sendlink.asp?HitID=1323801506151&StID=15089&SID=0&NID=748499&EmID=7975350&Link=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5udXItb25saW5lLmNvbS93b3Jrc2hvcHM%3D&token=a4076b09e9563e283d8c238ef4a1392c12370d30>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> GIS Essentials™ Workshop - Tele-Classes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a monthly series of tele-classes taught on Mondays and
>>> Wednesdays, via phone. Student*s* must have ArcGIS setup on their
>>> desktop, or we can help arrange a 60 day trial version of the software.*
>>>  *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Registration Fee: $1,000 (Includes 20 exercises over 16 hours of
>>> instruction, 8, two-hour class sessions, and a copy of the book The GIS 20:
>>> Essential Skills.)
>>>
>>> Software: ArcGIS 10/10.1
>>>
>>> Dates/Times: Mondays and Wednesdays monthly - 10 am - 12 pm PST (1:00 pm
>>> - 3:00 pm EST).
>>>
>>> *Note: All classes are recorded and available to students for review
>>> after class.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> More Info/Registration: http://www.nur-online.com/virtual_training<http://p.ss31.nur-online.com/sendlink.asp?HitID=1323801506151&StID=15089&SID=0&NID=748499&EmID=7975350&Link=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5udXItb25saW5lLmNvbS92aXJ0dWFsX3RyYWluaW5n&token=a4076b09e9563e283d8c238ef4a1392c12370d30>
>>>
>>>
>>> Custom Workshops
>>>
>>> Let us come to you. We can teach a customized GIS workshop at your
>>> location. Many find this to be a more cost effective solution if they have
>>> more than four people who would like to receive GIS training.
>>>
>>> Fee: $4,000 (this is a flat fee that includes ten books.)
>>> Additional books are $20 per book. No additional expenses will be
>>> incurred. Client must have a computer lab available to receive this
>>> pricing. If a lab is not available and you are still interested in a custom
>>> class, please contact us directly for pricing.
>>>
>>> ArcGIS Software
>>>
>>> ESRI will release version 10.1 in early 2012. Although the look and feel
>>> of 10.1 will be the same as 10, the* *new software will feature
>>> improved integration with ArcGIS Online and better sharing and publishing
>>> capabilities.  Here's a summary of the new features
>>> http://www.esri.com/software/arcgis/arcgis10/whats-coming/features.html#f1<http://p.ss31.nur-online.com/sendlink.asp?HitID=1323801506151&StID=15089&SID=0&NID=748499&EmID=7975350&Link=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5lc3JpLmNvbS9zb2Z0d2FyZS9hcmNnaXMvYXJjZ2lzMTAvd2hhdHMtY29taW5nL2ZlYXR1cmVzLmh0bWwjZjE%3D&token=a4076b09e9563e283d8c238ef4a1392c12370d30>.
>>> If your organization's maintenance is up to date, you will automatically
>>> receive the updated software.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pricing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ArcGIS Home Edition: ESRI has introduced a new licensing level for
>>> non-commercial home use with a price point of $100 per year. To order, or
>>> for more info, visit http://www.esri.com/arcgis-for-home<http://p.ss31.nur-online.com/sendlink.asp?HitID=1323801506151&StID=15089&SID=0&NID=748499&EmID=7975350&Link=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5lc3JpLmNvbS9hcmNnaXMtZm9yLWhvbWU%3D&token=a4076b09e9563e283d8c238ef4a1392c12370d30>
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Non-profit pricing: ESRI has introduced a new licensing level for 501(c)
>>> non-profit organizations. Depending on the number of licenses, an
>>> administrative fee will be assessed, which will generally be a few hundred
>>> dollars. Here is more information on that program, including eligibility
>>> guidelines
>>> http://www.esri.com/nonprofit/arcgis-desktop.html<http://p.ss31.nur-online.com/sendlink.asp?HitID=1323801506151&StID=15089&SID=0&NID=748499&EmID=7975350&Link=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5lc3JpLmNvbS9ub25wcm9maXQvYXJjZ2lzLWRlc2t0b3AuaHRtbA%3D%3D&token=a4076b09e9563e283d8c238ef4a1392c12370d30>
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Educational pricing: ESRI provides educational licenses for students,
>>> faculty and staff of educational institutions. If you order through New
>>> Urban Research, the price is $300 per license. To get a quote, visit
>>> http://www.nur-online.com/software<http://p.ss31.nur-online.com/sendlink.asp?HitID=1323801506151&StID=15089&SID=0&NID=748499&EmID=7975350&Link=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5udXItb25saW5lLmNvbS9zb2Z0d2FyZQ%3D%3D&token=a4076b09e9563e283d8c238ef4a1392c12370d30>and check the License(s) for School (K-12/College) box and then the Update
>>> Quote button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regular pricing: New Urban Research sells discounted software. Our price
>>> for one ArcGIS-ArcView license is $1260. To get a quote, visit
>>> http://www.nur-online.com/software<http://p.ss31.nur-online.com/sendlink.asp?HitID=1323801506151&StID=15089&SID=0&NID=748499&EmID=7975350&Link=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5udXItb25saW5lLmNvbS9zb2Z0d2FyZQ%3D%3D&token=a4076b09e9563e283d8c238ef4a1392c12370d30>.
>>> If you need help determining which software is best for you, please email
>>> us to discuss pricing options.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Books
>>>
>>>
>>> The GIS 20: Essential Skills, ESRI Press, $39.95
>>>
>>> The GIS 20 is a no-nonsense workbook that demonstrates how to perform 20
>>> essential GIS skills as indicated by 500 GIS practitioners.
>>> Written for professionals with no time for classroom training, this book
>>> can be used as a weekly self-assignment or as a quick reference guide*.*
>>>
>>> Each chapter offers a handy checklist of basic functions and steps
>>> covered in the text, as well as executive level summaries of how each
>>> function is commonly applied to various types of analysis. To order, visit
>>> http://www.nur-online.com/gis20_essential_skills<http://p.ss31.nur-online.com/sendlink.asp?HitID=1323801506151&StID=15089&SID=0&NID=748499&EmID=7975350&Link=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5udXItb25saW5lLmNvbS9naXMyMF9lc3NlbnRpYWxfc2tpbGxz&token=a4076b09e9563e283d8c238ef4a1392c12370d30>
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Programming
>>>
>>>
>>> New Urban Research provides a variety of GIS programming services. If
>>> you have a project in mind and would like a quote, please email us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have further questions, please feel free to contact us by e-mail
>>> or phone*.* From all of us at New Urban Research, we wish you and your
>>> GIS family a happy and productive New Year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>>
>>> Gina Clemmer
>>> New Urban Research
>>> 877.241.6576
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