[ale] almost OT: Hardware for virtualization

[Chuck Payne]

Sorry, I did mean to type 2.6.20, but miss hit the 9.

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Chuck Payne <terrorpup at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Jim Lynch
> <ale_nospam at fayettedigital.com> wrote:
>> On 08/17/2011 12:09 PM, Boris Borisov wrote:
>>
>> I never done any installation of virtual servers and I want to start
>> experimenting with the technology. Whats is the minimum CPU+MB that I can
>> buy in Microcenter ( I work nearby ) for my needs. Bear in mind is going to
>> be only for tests learning purpose not for production :)
>>
>> Thank you for all suggestions !
>>
>>
>> If you don't want to run MS products and only Linux try OpenVZ.  It's the
>> easiest to get running and has scads of various OS templates and does not
>> require any special hardware.  In my experience VirtualBox from Sun and now
>> Oracle is the easiest to get running if you need Winders and have the x86
>> hardware containing virtualization extensions (Intel VT or AMD-V). KVM is
>> the native Linux solution but is much less mature and may be a bit more
>> challenging to get running.  I suspect all the MBs available today support
>> CPUs with the virtualization extensions but you need to match the board with
>> the right CPU.  There are way too many chips out there to possibly list them
>> here but select one you like and check the specs for the VT or AMD-V
>> specification.  Most of the middle of the road to higher end CPUs with
>> multiple cores have the virtualization extensions.  For instance the intel
>> Atom and Celeron products probably won't have extensions.
>>
>> And LXC is another light weight solution that doesn't require any special
>> hardware, like OpenVZ but I was unable to get it working right myself.  It's
>> also under active development meaning it's less mature.
>>
>> Jim,
>>
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>
> Well the more memory and the more cores the better. You have serveral
> opitions you can select from that are free...
>
> Xen
> KVM
> VirtualBox
> VMWare ESXi
> OpenVZ
>
> I haven't played with OpenVZ or Xen. But I have used KVM, VirtualPC
> (Mac), Parallel, VMWare (ESX, ESXi, Fusion, Server, Workstation, and
> Player).
>
> If you are going to start, I would recommend KVM. For one, it already
> build into a 2.6.29 Kernel and above and all you need is to install
> Qemu and Virtual Manager which can be found in all major distro. You
> can access your server from any desktop that has Virtual Manager
> installed. You will need to set up your network devices as bridge
> network devices. openSUSE does that for you by default. It so easy to
> learn. Again no need to install software for the virtualzation, just
> managing your guest.  Another distro that does KVM nicely is Fedora.
> Other nice think about KVM it works with mose disk formats. I have a
> AMD CPU (6 cores) with 12 Gigs. I use logical volumes and I run my
> virts for them, man do I get great speeds. I am currently running 6
> guest on this host.
>
> http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page
>
> If you want to play with KVM but like to have a baremetal set up, take
> a look  Proxmox. It's base on debain.
>
> http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Main_Page
>
> If you are wanting learn virtulation for work. Then I would look at
> VMWare ESXi, it the free version of ESX, more Enterprise Companies use
> for virtulation.
>
> VirtualBox is great that you can run it on Linux, Windows, and Macs.
> It the poor mans VMWare Workstation.
>
> The one key to remember before you start on any path, this will save
> you hours of headaches. When you are ready to try virtulation, go into
> your bios and turn on Virtualization.
>
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