[ale] OT- Re: Cd-r life

[Jim Kinney]

I etch all of my important data onto bronze plates then fill in the etching
with gold. The super important data is carved into granite slabs.

That bug-out bag is getting pretty heavy...

Laser print onto acid-free archival paper is a solid preservation method.
For the terminally paranoid, getting the resulting paper laminated is next.

90+% or archival needs are environmental. magnetic media, optical media,
film, all require lightless, temperature and humidity conditions to be met
for maximum  lifespan.

Oh. put flash media in a lead-foil film bag to go through the airport with.
X-rays and flash media are a bad combination.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Richard Faulkner <rfaulkner at 34thprs.org>wrote:

>  Agreed on the frailness of flash memory Wolf.  One trip to Willie's Place
> in
> Hillsboro, TX during the studio build had me carrying a ton of gear with me
>
> through ATL/TSA and saw my bags (laptop bag, HDD's and thumb-drives)
> getting scanned at least three time before being cleared.  All of my sticks
>
> were toast in some fashion.  I cringed as they scanned them...
>
> In the end I got my work done but had to d/l fresh images for my drives and
> rebuild them on the road to finish the studio installs.  Frustrating.
>
> Paper is a longer term storage media (correct) but due to light effects and
> acid content of paper (which varies) it does come apart if not properly
> selected and cared for.
>
> This is an issue which I'm starting to wrestle with for the long-term care
> and preservation of data and photographic archives for the 34th PRS
> website and project.  At this point all archival is done on CD-R and HDD
> with new archives coming to long-term (gold) optical media.  Most all of
> what we have in storage at this point is (green) media -- likely part of
> the
> reason why they have lasted so long.    ----R
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From*: wolf at wolfhalton.info <wolf at wolfhalton.info<%22wolf at wolfhalton.info%22%20%3cwolf at wolfhalton.info%3e>
> >
> *Reply-to*: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux! <ale at ale.org>
> *To*: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux! <ale at ale.org<Atlanta%20Linux%20Enthusiasts%20-%20Yes%21%20We%20run%20Linux%21%20%3cale at ale.org%3e>
> >
> *Subject*: Re: [ale] OT- Re: Cd-r life
> *Date*: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 06:48:06 -0400
>
> Even the best CDR-W have about a 2-year life expectancy
> Paper is by far the most time-resistant media for photos.
> Ansel Adams Photos still exist. (They always looked that weird)
>
> Do you want to start talking about the relative friability of media?
> flash memory has about a max life of 5 years unless the stick or
> SHD is powered up at regular intervals. (I am not sure of the interval)
>
> -Wolf
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From*: Paul Cartwright <ale at pcartwright.com<Paul%20Cartwright%20%3cale at pcartwright.com%3e>
> >
> *Reply-to*: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux! <ale at ale.org>
> *To*: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux! <ale at ale.org<Atlanta%20Linux%20Enthusiasts%20-%20Yes%21%20We%20run%20Linux%21%20%3cale at ale.org%3e>
> >
> *Subject*: [ale] OT- Re: Cd-r life
> *Date*: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 06:46:52 -0400
>
> On Sat October 2 2010, Ron Frazier wrote:
> > TDK had a similar product at one time, but I couldn't find it on their
> > website now.  Here's the link to their storage media website.  Look for the
> > word archival in the name, but be sure to check the specs.  Some discs are
> > just a heavy duty scratch resistant standard discs.
> >
> > http://www.tdkperformance.com/en-us/Storage-Media/
> ok, since we are now talking photos & not linux, it becomes OT:)
>
> the problem with the photoarchival TDK CDs is, it now takes me 2 DVDs to store
> my photos, and that size grows almost daily:) I now use at least 1 USB stick
> to store photos on. As soon as I get A JOB, I will get a bigger USB stick,
> and eventually multiple sticks, just for my photos..
>
>
>
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