[ale] Opportunity for Windows Admin in PA/TN

[William Fragakis]

Jim,
I think you've used very sound reasoning. While some on the list may
have the options to live in a FOSS-only world, there are others who
don't. Like you, I was especially thinking of someone new to the list,
very interested in FOSS but who needed to pay the bills with previously
acquired skills.

You and others have also pointed out how a FOSS advocate in a
proprietary shop can effect change from within. When you are good at
your job, you gain credibility - your boss will be willing to listen to
your ideas where he/she would tend to overlook these same ideas from an
outside source.

Lastly, it's a compliment to this group: the recruiter is thinking that
there's a decent chance that someone with good FOSS skills also knows
their way around the Windows world. I'm not sure that the assumption the
other way would be as likely - Windows admins who know their way around
FOSS tools.

Keep up the good work.

William

On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 10:18 -0500, Jim Kinney wrote:
> I am admitting being torn about this so I am offering both an apology
> and my justification.
> 
> The ALE-jobs list was formed to provide a moderated clearinghouse for
> job posting that are for Linux/FOSS positions in their entirety or
> partially. This position has absolutely no mention at all of any
> aspect of Linux/FOSS skills being either required, desired or
> optional. I would normally have replied back to the recruiter (the
> email was sent to me directly, NOT to ale-jobs) with a snarky "Did you
> READ my resume? Do you see ANY mention of skills like you are looking
> for? I don't FIX windows machine, I REPLACE them with working Linux
> systems!". If there is any mention of Linux/FOSS skills, I am far more
> polite and inform them I will forward their request (I have done many
> of these) to the ALE-jobs list and tell them where it is and what it's
> about. (The response has always been very positive!)
> 
> However, this morning I was checking email on my phone and saw the
> posting. On the radio was a blurb about unemployment still stuck
> around 9.6%. So I forwarded a temporary job notice that had nothing to
> do with Linux/FLOSS skills at all knowing there are many ALE'rs with
> windows creds that this position could benefit. I publicly hope an
> ALE'r gets this position and helps bring the joy of Linux/FLOSS to the
> poor winders-only company.
> 
> So for those that are offended by my passing along a non-Linux/FLOSS
> job posting, my humble apologies for this and any other possible
> future transgressions in the same vein. Employed Linux/FLOSS
> enthusiasts can do more good inside a windows-only shop than
> unemployed ALE'rs can do. Plus I know we have some very talented
> winders-admin types that are exploring the Linux/FLOSS world and they
> would benefit directly.
> 
> For those who are happy to see a job posting they are qualified for,
> please don't forget you saw it on a Linux/FLOSS mailing list :-)
> 
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>         ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>         From: <gaurav.gaur at acsicorp.com>
>         Date: Nov 9, 2010 3:26 PM
>         Subject: Opportunity for Windows Admin in PA/TN
>         To: <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
>         
>         
>         
>          
>         
>         Hello,
>         
>          
>         
>         Hope you are doing great.
>         
>          
>         
>         I have excellent job opening for you with one of our direct
>         client.
>         
>          
>         
>         Title: Windows Admin
>         
>         Location: Pittsburgh, PA & Nashville, TN
>         
>         Duration: 6+ Months
>         
>          
>         
>         Job Description:
>         
>               * 5 + years of Windows System Administration.
>               * Needs to be well versed with Windows Server 2000 and
>                 2005.
>               * Windows Server 2008 will be added advantage.
>               * Excellent Communication skills
>         
>          
>         
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>         
>         If you interested in this job position mentioned please
>         response with your resume in MS word format with these details
>         
>         Full Name: 
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>         Current Location: 
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>         Expected rate (Per hour): 
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>         Contact No (Cell and Landline): 
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>         Visa Status: 
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>         Employer Details (In case of H1B Visa): 
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>         Availability: 
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>         Currently on Project (Y/N): 
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>         Open to relocate: 
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>         2 References: 
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>                                        
>         ______________________________________________________________
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>         
>         Gaurav Gaur
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>         Sr. Technical Recruiter
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