[ale] OT: Security code on Credit/Debit cards revisited

[Lightner, Jeff]

Scott

If you remove yourself from lists because somebody personally attacks
you you'll find you can never be on any list ever.   

I'd suggest you stay and take the discussion as a learning experience -
if nothing else you may have learned whose posts you wish to ignore in
the future.   There's one putz on this list who I regularly ignore
because it is clear he hides behind his anonymity to say things he
wouldn't ever dare say to my face.  Giving him the satisfaction of not
posting things I know he'll attack however isn't anything I'd be willing
to do.

By the way - going back to M$ doesn't hurt anyone but you.  If you
really don't like this forum for Linux you might want to try others such
as Linuxquestions.org.

Mike

It was one thing to suggest Scott's original remark was racist but to
follow it up with the vitriol you have didn't seem any more appropriate
to me.  

-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
Scott Castaline
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:24 AM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Security code on Credit/Debit cards revisited

On 03/24/2010 10:50 AM, John G. Heim wrote:
> It seems to me that linguists are moving away from the idea that some
words
> are right and others wrong. The oldays when Sister Madalyn wrapped
your
> knuckles for using 'bring' when you should have used 'take' are gone,
> replaced by a judgment  based on the words effect. Ie. You shouldn't
use
> niggardly  because it gives offense and your meaning will be lost.
>
> So the real question would be whether the use of the word "racist"
> effectively transmitted the intended  meaning. I would say it did and
> therefore it was correct.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Kinney"<jim.kinney at gmail.com>
> To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!"<ale at ale.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 9:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Security code on Credit/Debit cards revisited
>
>
> This _way_ better than global warming. :-)   !
> The language discussions have been interesting and all appear valid.
The
> "moving target" argument make specific word usage more ambiguous since
much
> "in flux" usage currently lean away from a more formal specificity. .
> Yet to use race pejoratively when the original context was
specifically
> non-racial but national origin directed was a serious tactical
blunder. -2
> points for poor word choice in the initial condemnory rebuttal. Yet
since
> many national origin arguments have some racial connotation, not all
but a
> significant fraction, it is often an implied pejorative factor. So +1
for
> intent.
>
> While I would appreciate the restaurant name so I may also avoid them,
at
> this point that may be a poor association to make given the tenor of
this
> discussion.
>
> On Mar 23, 2010 9:24 PM, "Michael B. Trausch"<mike at trausch.us>  wrote:
>
> On 03/23/2010 07:31 PM, Geoffrey wrote:
>> Not to pick nits, but the comment didn't really indicate r...
> This is completely self-contradicting.
>
> The statements, "... racism is the belief that one race is superior to
> another.", and "... a belief that a particular race might be more
> dishonest than others." can only be *non*-contradictory if honesty is
> not a measure of the quality of an individual's character.
Furthermore,
> physical attributes of race have very little to do with a person's
> honesty, or charisma, or any such other behavioral attribute.  Such
> attributes come from individual people's experiences, upbringing,
> economical standings throughout life, and other factors, but certainly
> not their country of origin in this or any previous generation.
>
> Is that the sort of thing that this group tolerates?  If so, that is
> rather infuriating and saddening.
>
>
> --- Mike
>
Well I hope y'all feel vindicated as this "RACIST" is removing themself 
from this maillist. Also I may even consider embracing the M$ tax. Thank

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