[ale] Can a class-b space be sold? How much?

Michael Still stillwaxin at gmail.com
Thu Mar 18 11:52:38 EDT 2010


On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:14 AM, David Ritchie <deritchie at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Michael Still <stillwaxin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The short answer is yes addresses can be sold, but the long answer is
>> no.  Addresses are assigned to entities and those entities are what
>> are involved in the transaction, the IP space just goes along with
>> them.  You just need to have your company bought by someone else.
>> Remember that no individual companies "own" their IP space except that
>> "legacy" space is subject to different rules, which you may be a part
>> of (not sure really).
>
> I have always wondered why companies that merge (HP comes immediately
> to mind from
> my own experience/familiarity) are sitting on huge blocks of IPs that
> are unused (due to NAT)
> when in fact they could have their networks use 10.x.x.x/8 internally
> and use public facing addresses for machines that actually need them
> only (my guess - less than 1% of machines).
> Additionally, they own multiple Class A's if my understanding is
> correct (HP is probably
> 'owning' the old Compaq/Digital/Tandem/EDS address space at this
> point.).  It would
> give some breathing room for IPV4, but I think the network folks are
> simply trying to force the
> issue by allowing the address space to run out, forcing a transition to IPV6.
>
> Or am I misreading this? I sometimes think that if this were not
> basically a free good, you would have people releasing unused space
> back into the pool. What would be the harm
> of a $1/year/address IP tax to fund the running of the internet?
> Thought experiment here...
>
> Best regards,
> Dave Ritchie

See these 2 pages for info on legacy vs non-legacy space and fees:
https://www.arin.net/fees/fee_schedule.html
https://www.arin.net/resources/legacy/index.html

If I read it right, legacy space is basically fee free ($100/year),
but to get new space you have to justify current usage as well as pay
the fee for the new space.  Also, if you are a legacy holder they'd be
happy to take that space back.

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