[ale] [OT] dsl throughput

Thu Mar 11 09:27:45 EST 2010

I'm curious why you make your assertion to never use the  
ISP's email service. I know why _I_ do not want to, but...

On 03/10/2010 09:22:51 PM, Richard Bronosky wrote:
> You should never never never accept an email account from
> your ISP. Do
> not use your new ISP's email offering.
> 
> On 3/10/10, Tim Watts <timtw at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Thanks for the explanation Keith. And Jeff, for the
> explanation of the
> > explanation.
> >
> > Getting ready to finally dump earthstink for nexis.
> Since ATT provides
> > my phone I don't think I'm likely to see a downturn in
> throughput. But
> > if reports are accurate I should see a definite upturn
> in customer
> > service for about the same price.
> >
> > The biggest pain is identifying all the people, lists,
> sites & services
> > that occasionally email me and I want to notify (or
> not). Seems like any
> > public email provider ought to provide a 'change of
> address' service
> > like the post office where for 3 months or so they'll
> forward email to
> > you with an offer to notify the sender of the change (or
> at least a
> > reminder to get it done).
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 17:32 -0500, Lightner, Jeff wrote:
> >> ILEC = Incumbent Local Exchange Carrier = the folks
> that own the phone
> >> lines in your area e.g. BellSouth (AT&T) for most of
> Atlanta Metro.
> >>
> >> CLEC = Competitive Local Exchange Carrier = People that
> use those
> >> phone lines but sell service to you.  (Somewhat the way
> Atlanta Gas
> >> Light owns all the gas pipes but you can buy from
> SCANA, GNG or
> >> others.)
> >>
> >> The theory was it would be competitive like long
> distance was
> >> previously so you'd end up paying a lot less for home
> phone service.
> >> The (alleged) practice is that ILECs put so many
> hurdles in front of
> >> CLECs and delayed their orders so long that it isn't
> economical for
> >> general phone service.  Most CLECs gave up on
> residential service and
> >> focused on business.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org]
> On Behalf Of
> >> Dennis Ruzeski
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:59 PM
> >> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
> >> Subject: Re: [ale] [OT] dsl throughput
> >>
> >> Funny that with the whirlwind of acronyns flying around
> that response,
> >> the only one you chose to define was CO.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:45 PM,
> <krwatson at cc.gatech.edu> wrote:
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: ale-bounces at ale.org
> [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
> >> Tim
> >> >> Watts
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 13:50
> >> >> To: ale at ale.org
> >> >> Subject: [ale] [OT] dsl throughput
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> Quick question: Is changing my dsl provider likely
> to change my
> >> >> throughput? I suspect not since my distance from the
> CO isn't
> >> changing.
> >> >> Just want to know if there are other variables I'm
> not considering.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe. Lets say you are using a CLEC and they are
> connecting you
> >> 10,000 feet back to the CO (central office) and you
> change to ILECs
> >> DSL. The ILEC has a DSLAM 1,000 feet from your house
> and that is what
> >> they connect you to instead of the CO. You would
> potentially get
> >> better bandwidth.
> >> >
> >> > By law ILECs have to share the resources in the CO
> with the CLECs
> >> but they are not required to share the DSLAM. I have
> also seen it the
> >> other way around where the CLEC provides better
> bandwidth because they
> >> installed a DLSAM and the ILEC can't give you DSL at
> all because
> >> you're to far from the CO.
> >> >
> >> > It used to be that all the vendors used to use the
> same database to
> >> determine your distance from the CO so they would tell
> you on the web
> >> page you weren't eligible but if you called an engineer
> he would look
> >> it up in his database and it would tell him that there
> was a DSLAM
> >> within range. I haven't ordered DSL in many years so I
> don't know if
> >> it has gotten any better.
> >> >
> >> > keith
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > Keith R. Watson                        Georgia
> Institute of
> >> Technology
> >> > Systems Support Specialist IV          College of
> Computing
> >> > keith.watson at cc.gatech.edu             801 Atlantic
> Drive NW
> >> > (404) 385-7401                         Atlanta, GA
> 30332-0280
> >> >
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