[ale] [OT] dsl throughput

Wed Mar 10 20:53:50 EST 2010

Thanks for the explanation Keith. And Jeff, for the explanation of the
explanation.

Getting ready to finally dump earthstink for nexis. Since ATT provides
my phone I don't think I'm likely to see a downturn in throughput. But
if reports are accurate I should see a definite upturn in customer
service for about the same price.

The biggest pain is identifying all the people, lists, sites & services
that occasionally email me and I want to notify (or not). Seems like any
public email provider ought to provide a 'change of address' service
like the post office where for 3 months or so they'll forward email to
you with an offer to notify the sender of the change (or at least a
reminder to get it done).

On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 17:32 -0500, Lightner, Jeff wrote:
> ILEC = Incumbent Local Exchange Carrier = the folks that own the phone
> lines in your area e.g. BellSouth (AT&T) for most of Atlanta Metro.
> 
> CLEC = Competitive Local Exchange Carrier = People that use those
> phone lines but sell service to you.  (Somewhat the way Atlanta Gas
> Light owns all the gas pipes but you can buy from SCANA, GNG or
> others.)   
> 
> The theory was it would be competitive like long distance was
> previously so you'd end up paying a lot less for home phone service.
> The (alleged) practice is that ILECs put so many hurdles in front of
> CLECs and delayed their orders so long that it isn't economical for
> general phone service.  Most CLECs gave up on residential service and
> focused on business.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
> Dennis Ruzeski
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:59 PM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
> Subject: Re: [ale] [OT] dsl throughput
> 
> Funny that with the whirlwind of acronyns flying around that response,
> the only one you chose to define was CO.
> 
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:45 PM,  <krwatson at cc.gatech.edu> wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
> Tim
> >> Watts
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 13:50
> >> To: ale at ale.org
> >> Subject: [ale] [OT] dsl throughput
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Quick question: Is changing my dsl provider likely to change my
> >> throughput? I suspect not since my distance from the CO isn't
> changing.
> >> Just want to know if there are other variables I'm not considering.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >
> > Maybe. Lets say you are using a CLEC and they are connecting you
> 10,000 feet back to the CO (central office) and you change to ILECs
> DSL. The ILEC has a DSLAM 1,000 feet from your house and that is what
> they connect you to instead of the CO. You would potentially get
> better bandwidth.
> >
> > By law ILECs have to share the resources in the CO with the CLECs
> but they are not required to share the DSLAM. I have also seen it the
> other way around where the CLEC provides better bandwidth because they
> installed a DLSAM and the ILEC can't give you DSL at all because
> you're to far from the CO.
> >
> > It used to be that all the vendors used to use the same database to
> determine your distance from the CO so they would tell you on the web
> page you weren't eligible but if you called an engineer he would look
> it up in his database and it would tell him that there was a DSLAM
> within range. I haven't ordered DSL in many years so I don't know if
> it has gotten any better.
> >
> > keith
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Keith R. Watson                        Georgia Institute of
> Technology
> > Systems Support Specialist IV          College of Computing
> > keith.watson at cc.gatech.edu             801 Atlantic Drive NW
> > (404) 385-7401                         Atlanta, GA  30332-0280
> >
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