[ale] [OT] cartoon on BP spill blame

William Fragakis william at fragakis.com
Fri Jun 18 16:56:36 EDT 2010


Compare someplace like Montreal or London with Atlanta or a smaller US
city (or any Walmart in the Southeast). The difference in BMI is
staggering.

What you are referring to is an economic externality. The price of a
transaction doesn't factor in some or all costs or benefits to those not
participating but affected by the transaction. Examples of a negative
externality is  Midwest electricity (Appalachian acid rain). MARTA has
positive externalities from increased property values around stations to
the fact someone on the train isn't sitting in front of you on the
Connector.

Sorry for your loss.

wf

On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 16:22 -0400, Tom Freeman wrote:
> Since my late wife was asthmatic (and what killed her), I happen to 
> agree about air quality. We had a wonderful time when as students (and 
> therefor no real health insurance either) the winter wood smoke landed 
> her in the hospital for five days. Really effective use of a graduate 
> student's time...
> 
> Any accounting experts want to guesstimate the cost of personal 
> transportation on human health? Don't forget that cities with 
> functioning mass transit have fewer issues with obesity also.
> 
> On 06/18/2010 03:28:48 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> > Had to read all the way to the bottom to figure out why the language
> > was not
> > making sense:
> > 
> > "*Ben Lieberman is senior analyst of energy and environmental policy
> > in The
> > Heritage Foundation's Roe Institute."*
> > 
> > I'll tingly at $10/gal tax on gas. I'll get positively "orgasmically
> > glowing" if the extra revenues are used to build a _working_
> > transportation
> > system that doesn't aggravate my breathing every summer. I'm sick of
> > warnings about the air being so polluted from (mostly) car exhaust
> > that its
> > not safe for children and elderly to breath.
> > 
> > tax, baby, tax
> > 
> > On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Preston Boyington
> > <preston.lists at gmail.com>wrote:
> > 
> > > Jim Kinney wrote:
> > > <snipped>
> > > > I do recall the oil crisis of the 70's when gas spiked to over a
> > dollar
> > > > per gal and there were lines to get it. We missed the opportunity
> > test
> > > > economic theories then of supply and demand by raising the gas
> > taxes to
> > > > curb demand. We blew it then and again in 2008.
> > > >
> > > > Taxes are sort of like consultant fees: they should never go down
> > and
> > > > should always climb to the point where _everyone_ is complaining.
> > > >
> > >
> > > guess you'll get all 'tingly' is this comes to pass then:
> > >
> > > $7-a-gallon gas?
> > > The folly of O's oil-spill 'fix'
> > >
> > > http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/
> > gallon_gas_9GlF3o1xIcIBelOV3k0RsK?
> > utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Morning%2BBell
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Arrant Drivel - really, it's just trash...
> > > http://www.arrantdrivel.com/
> > >
> > > Where the road takes me - a highwayman's perspective
> > > http://www.prestonboyington.com/
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> > -- 
> > -- 
> > James P. Kinney III
> > Actively in pursuit of Life, Liberty and Happiness
> > Doing pretty well on all 3 pursuits
> > 
> >  Faith is a cop-out. If the only way you can accept an assertion is 
> > by
> > faith, then you are conceding that it can’t be taken on its own
> > merits.
> >    Dan Barker, "Losing Faith in Faith", 1992
> > 
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