[ale] [way OT] BP knew of problems 11 months before the rig blew

[Damon L. Chesser]

On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 20:47 -0400, m-aaron-r wrote:
> On 2010/05/30, at 12:49 , Jim Kinney wrote:
> > I think the Chernobyl moniker is certainly more correct than Katrina.
> > _WE_ made this mess not nature.
> 
> Correction:  The BP corporapists and their sub contractors made this
> mess.
> 
> And as was noted in the video you forwarded, the circumstances of
> this mess are nearly identical to those of a very similar offshore
> oil drilling mess these same companies caused in the Gulf of Mexico
> from thirty years ago.
> 
> The mess has happened because fascist whores in our government,
> specifically Dick Cheney and his Bush regime puppets

Bull hockey flag raised.

When was the last election and change of administration, last week?

Comes a time when "Bush's fault" will not cut it any more.  Not a Bush
fan, by the way.  Hate the Big Gov results vis a vis Bail out, patriot
act, etc etc, but come on!  Bush/Chaney/Haliburton is not the
anti-christ any more then (or less then) "We know best how to take care
of you" Obama administration and the current Congress leadership.
They are just as much fascist with just a different approach to
Government control (ie, what we will control).  Fascist is Fascist.

> , allowed their
> "buddies" in the oil corps. to circumvent the subsequently required
> safety precautions put in place by responsible government
> representatives to protect the citizens and our commonwealth
> resources from a repeat of the greed driven incompetence and
> corporate planet rape that happened in the Gulf in 1979.
> 
> The mess happened because Dick Cheney sold out America
> to corporapist blood sucking leeches in closed door meetings
> that were denied any and all public scrutiny in order to establish
> the wholesale and criminal whoring of our national resources
> to the private,

Private is the most efficient method of exploitation. Think this is a
red herring. We will not talk about Clinton, Carter, Reagan, both houses
of Congress from both parties, Just Bush.

>  elitist, tax free profiteering of his closest business
> associates and pawn it off as the "National" Energy Policy.

What about the current Administration? Seems like their guys were also
in bed (Literally) with these guys.
> 
> Fascists (in the textbook definition) every one of them.

Agreed as long as we say that is neither Republican or Democrat.
fascists is as fascists does.
> 
> peace
> aaron
> 
> >
> > We have some really bright people that seem to be forced to the
> > backseat when decisions are made. Accounting has it's place
> > and that is not the drivers seat. The big question I keep asking,
> > with no responses from anywhere, is how do we transition from
> > where we are now to a more meritocracy processes?
> >
> > On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Jim Philips <briarpatch.jim at gmail.com 
> > > wrote:
> > Our faith in our own know-how is certainly taking a beating in this  
> > episode.
> > We know how to unleash forces that we don't know how to control (and  
> > destroy
> > a lot of things we don't know how to replace). People keep comparing  
> > this to Katrina.
> > But I think it's more like Chernobyl. We are likely to have a long- 
> > term dead zone
> > in the Gulf of Mexico.
> >
> > On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>  
> > wrote:
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/30/us/30rig.html?
> >
> > Time to start pumping the well head full of execs yet?
> >
> > Does anyone know of a single component compound that reacts with mixed
> > organics to make a solid? Drilling mud is a lubricant. They need to  
> > pump in
> > a fast-setting glue. However, since the article talks about the  
> > screw ups in the
> > valve and the cement well casing I'm concerned that with the well  
> > pressure
> > a plugged head will only force a leak (or blowout) near the head in  
> > the sea
> > floor. The cement casing is supposed to act as a reinforcement but  
> > there are
> > reports that the material used was substandard (thanks Haliburton!)  
> > and
> > poorly installed.
> >
> > Maybe since the riser pipe is still attached to the head they can beat
> > on it with the "top cap" box and crimp it down to cut the flow. Who  
> > knows.
> > Maybe a slow crimping cutoff of the flow will not shock the casing  
> > and allow
> > a temporary blockage with the sub-floor fracturing of the crappy  
> > casing
> > they are worried about.
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Damon
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