[ale] OT got my first job as a Computer Professional *kinda*

[Greg Freemyer]

IANAL,

(Some technical stuff below, but not much. Hopefully not too OT.)

Admissable is the wrong word.  If you have any potential evidence you
think you will want to use to prove your case in the future then you
want to secure it from future changes.  That way the judge/jury will
give it more credibility, but if it exists its admissable.  Only the
govt has to worry about the admissability of evidence aiui.  (Private
citizens can't typically violate the constitution).

Sending it to an uninterested 3rd party via email datestamps the
email.  (The internal email headers are used to show when the email
transited various servers, so the full email container is used.)

Then if it becomes very important, you hire a uninterested/trusted
party to retreive the email (from gmail, etc.) and certify that they
did not modify the email / attachments.  If needed they can print the
email headers and testify to why that means the email was actually
sent when it appears to have been on its face.

Greg

On 7/11/10, Michael Potter <michael at potter.name> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Mike Harrison <cluon at geeklabs.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010, jrtroberts wrote:
>>
>> > I got a call on Thursday from a recruiting office in Nebraska, must be
>> > cheaper in Nebraska, about installing a DVD NOW (essentially a redbox)
>> > vending machine at an IGN in Marble Hill, GA.  (one time gig)
>> >
>> > pays $15 an hour with $15 Travel and time limit is 1.5 hours.  Based on
>> > the instruction manual there is almost nothing to it.  My job is just to
>> > open the guts and make sure the moving parts are not broken, then plug
>>
>> Congrats! You are no longer a hobbiest or amateur.
>>
>> Just in case they don't require it already:
>> Once upon a time when I did this kind of work for a "jobber",
>> I found that taking pictures of installs, customers locations,
>> broken equipment, etc.. absolutely invaluable. If you have a
>> phone (camera phone is fine..) take pics and save them.
>> It helps when they say: The frammel rod is bent and you did not check
>> that..  and you can show them the pic of the unit with a perfect frammel
>> rod and the money acceptor intact when you installed it.
>>
>> *frammel rod is a fictitious part.
>>
>>
>>
> The "take a picture" advice is excellent.  I will add to that: email the
> photo to your gmail (or other third party) email account.   It is my
> understanding that that will timestamp the picture in a way that would be
> admissible as evidence.
>

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Greg Freemyer
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