[ale] Losing Ubuntu
Joshua
jrtroberts at gmail.com
Mon Aug 16 00:23:16 EDT 2010
I am now a sudoer. It was really not hard at all.
using su root I successfully edited visudo and now I am good to go.
I also successfully learned how to move my /home from the 10GB root
partition I to the old 45GB /home partition I used with Ubuntu. For
some reason during the install and while running debian I could not use
the partition. The installer would not let me use it without formatting
and debian would not mount it, said directory did not exist. I probably
just need to mount it manually or something, but I wanted to clean out
all the old crap anyway so I just loaded a live CD, copied the stuff I
wanted to a flash drive. Then I rebooted into debian, used my new sudo
powers to run gparted -- formated the partition to ext3.
Then I logged out, tried to use Alt+F1 to get a terminal but no luck, so
I changed sessions to a failsafe terminal. Using su root I used
mv /home /home.bak
mkdir /home
mount -t ext3 /dev/hda8 /home
cp -a /home.bak/* /home
edited the fstab with a /dev/hda8 /home ext3
defaults 0 0
rebooted and yeah I have a 45GB /home... cheers.
Next I had to do some more work by installing fuse-utils and ntfs-3g and
using fstab again to auto mount my old windows partition.
I do believe that I am coming along.
I like the response time and stability of debian more than ubuntu, but I
do miss having all the apps and repos that ubuntu has. Like the
chromium-browser is only in sid.
I made the mistake of adding sid to my /etc/apt/sources.list running a
apt-get update upgrade and broke my system. had to reinstall. won't do
that again. All just to get chromium-browser without having to manually
install dependencies. Oh well, live and learn.
Overall it has been a great experience. I will keep on truckin'.
Thanks for all the help.
Joshua
wolf at wolfhalton.info wrote:
> I use the group approach, then all I have to do is add accounts to the
> admin group to make them sudoers.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From*: Damon L. Chesser <damon at damtek.com
> <mailto:%22Damon%20L.%20Chesser%22%20%3cdamon at damtek.com%3e>>
> *Reply-to*: damon at damtek.com, Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run
> Linux! <ale at ale.org>
> *To*: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux! <ale at ale.org
> <mailto:Atlanta%20Linux%20Enthusiasts%20-%20Yes%21%20We%20run%20Linux%21%20%3cale at ale.org%3e>>
> *Subject*: Re: [ale] Losing Ubuntu
> *Date*: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 14:12:28 -0400
>
> On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 13:51 -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> > On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 13:04 -0400, Joshua Roberts wrote:
> > > ah I had forgotten about the su command. I guess I don't really need
> > > to deal with any of this. I can just su to root whenever I want to
> > > change stuff and then back to my account when I just want to use
> > > stuff.
> > >
> > > And I tried editing the kernel parameters and I kept getting Error 11
> > > unrecognized command or something like that. I think I will stick
> > > with the su instead of using sudo.
> >
> > Well, seeing the other responses to your sudo/su/root question, I am
> > wondering if I am right, at least I am covered, I did say "IIRC".
>
> Some more thoughts on su vs sudo: Since you went to the trouble of
> disabling root login, you might want to use sudo: Every instance of
> sudo is tracked in the logs, who invoked it, what command was run, but
> su is NOT covered. It will only show foo became root, then it will show
> you root ran bar (maybe), but not who was root when bar was run. Visudo
> is really easy, just the vi portion is hard, and then only if you don't
> know how to use vi. The one liner I showed you in an earlier post will
> work for you. If you wanted to be fancy you could use a group instead
> of a user name: $wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWORD ALL will allow all users
> in the wheel group to use sudo with out a password.
> $wheel ALL=(ALL) ALL will allow all users in the wheel group to run any
> command from any computer (using ssh) with a password.
>
> usermod -G $USERNAME wheel will add a user to the group wheel
> (substitute the username for $USERNAME) when run as root.
>
> HTH
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help. I will see if I can figure out how to fix some
> > > of the other issues I am having, if not I will ask more questions.
> > > Thanks for all the help.
> > >
> > >
> > > Joshua
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Damon L. Chesser <damon at damtek.com <mailto:damon at damtek.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 01:50 -0400, Joshua Roberts wrote:
> > > > Well, I have installed Debian with Lxde. I like the openbox
> > > desktop.
> > > > But here begins the work. I may need to reinstall to make
> > > my life
> > > > easier. I chose to not allow root login on this machine.
> > >
> > >
> > > You still have root access, IIRC (I have never dissallowed
> > > root logon my
> > > desktop, what's the point?) you just need to su to root then
> > > run
> > > "visudo"
> > >
> > > add a line that says this:
> > >
> > > $USERNAME ALL=(ALL) ALL
> > >
> > > substitute your username for $USERNAME. visudo takes the same
> > > commands
> > > as vi. Save, log out, log in, test with sudo ifconfig
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > It also seems that I, joshua the user, am not allowed to
> > > access the
> > > > sudo command. I am not in the sudoers file. First I have
> > > seen that.
> > > > From what I have read I am going to need to boot into a live
> > > CD and
> > > > edit the file. Or I can do a minimal boot into /bin/sh and
> > > then mount
> > > > some stuff that I need to edit the file. Either way it
> > > seems like it
> > > > is going to be some work.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have any tips about how to best accomplish this
> > > task of
> > > > giving myself sudo access without a huge headache. Maybe I
> > > am just
> > > > really tired because the instructions for the sudo file look
> > > really
> > > > confusing. Even worse than Xorg or Xranr. Anyway, I am
> > > giong to bed.
> > > > I will fight with it some more another day. Until then I
> > > will have to
> > > > live with what I have since I cannot install anything else.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah for me. I managed to F up my first real linux
> > > install. ( After
> > > > this experience I do not really count Ubuntu as a serious
> > > linux
> > > > install.)
> > >
> > >
> > > my first Debian install (potato?) took me 30 days to get X up
> > > an
> > > running. You are doing fine (and Linux is getting
> > > exponentially better
> > > and easier to configure).
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Joshua
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Rev. Johnny Healey
> > > > <rev.null at gmail.com <mailto:rev.null at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > > Ubuntu is debian unstable unstable.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Aug 13, 2010 10:47 AM, "jrtroberts"
> > > <jrtroberts at gmail.com <mailto:jrtroberts at gmail.com>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I have decided to stop using ubuntu and Try Debian
> > > directly.
> > > > Not sure
> > > > > how that will affect my linux experience, but I do
> > > not see
> > > > it being all
> > > > > that bad.
> > > >
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