[ale] Let's Party!

[Jeff Lightner]

Well I HAVE had to play with xorg.conf as recently as Fedora 11 because
it doesn't deal well with KVM setups.

Telling me that the only posts I see in forums are the ones with issues
is specious and besides the point I was making which is many newbies DO
have issues.  Saying the one you assisted didn't doesn't change the fact
there are hundreds that do as evidenced by the sheer number of posts
asking about it.   I might reverse your argument and suggest that the
number of posts seen is actually an UNDER reporting because many simply
give up and never post.

-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
Geoffrey
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:31 AM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
Subject: Re: [ale] Let's Party!

Jeff Lightner wrote:
> I suspect it "just works" for you because you understand how to deal
> with the minor issues much as it "just works" for me 99% of the time.
> For those who are used to it there is nothing to going and editing
> xorg.conf (or adding it when Fedora decided not to put it in by
default)
> to resolve display issues.

I've not had to do that any time recently.  Just assisted a complete 
newby set up a dual boot on a dell laptop.  I did not have to do any 
more then watch over his shoulder.

> As noted in my earlier comments - they were based on the plethora of
> newbie posts I see (in places like Linuxquestions.org) that ask the
> similar questions over and over related to installs.  For newbies who
> have never heard of xorg.conf knowing that they need to edit it (or
> create it) in the first place typically takes some effort.

Understand, you're not going to see folks post to those lists about 
successes.  The purpose of those locations are exactly that 'linux 
questions.'  I guarantee you if you properly search for such problems 
for windows, you'll find a comparable number of issues.

> I wasn't saying Windoze works out of the box for most users - rather
> that most users are used to much of what is there so don't feel as
> completely lost when they have to deal with a single issue.
> Troubleshooting issues associated with what you think you know as
> opposed to something you're sure you don't know is quite different.

It depends on who you are talking about.  Technically, someone who is 
comfortable with Windows installs is going to view a problem there the 
same as a Linux user will a comparable issue with a Linux install.

You can't compare a Linux geek to an average Windows user.

> The problem with many of us who do know Linux/UNIX is we've been doing
> it so long we have a tendency to explain the basics because "of course
> everyone already knows" them.

Not a problem I have. ;)

-- 
Until later, Geoffrey

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
  - Benjamin Franklin
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