[ale] Any Thoughts on Fedora 12?

[Marc Ferguson]

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Brian Pitts <brian at polibyte.com> wrote:

> On 11/28/2009 07:42 PM, Marc Ferguson wrote:
> > Hey Folks,
> >
> > I'm a big-time Fedora user and I wanted to know if anyone has played
> > with Fedora 12, natively? I'm going to wait about another week or so
> > before I upgrade. Also; I've done the netboot install lately, but I see
> > that I can do a YUM upgrade option. Does anyone recommend that?  Thanks.
>
> Frankly, the only difference I've noticed in 12 is that network manager
> has gotten some more functionality and polish.
>
> I think there are two supported upgrade methods:
>
> i) Upgrade by booting the dvd. Anaconda should recognize your existing
> installation and offer to upgrade it.
> ii) Upgrade using the 'preupgrade' tool [0]. THis downloads all the rpms
> you need while you're still using your system, then reboots into Anaconda.
>
> There's also the possibility of upgrading using yum, but it's not
> recommended. [1]
>
> I tried to upgrade from 11 to 12 using the DVD. I have two major
> complaints.
>
> 1) I expected Anaconda to give me the option of adding other
> repositories. It never did. This meant any software I had installed
> which wasn't included on the dvd couldn't be upgraded from it.
>
> 2) If the upgrade process fails, fixing it is pretty painful.
>
> a) THere's an rpm named fedora-release that tells fedora what version it
> is. If the upgrade fails after you've installed the updated version of
> it, when you try to restart the upgrade via rebooting Anaconda refuses
> to start in upgrade mode. Instead, it only present options for
> installing a fresh system. The solution is to pass it the 'upgradeany'
> option through the kernel boot options.
>
> b) The way Anaconda seems to work is that all the Fedora 12 rpms are
> installed, then all the Fedora 11 rpms are removed. This means that if
> the upgrade fails you'll have both installed. Restarting the upgrade
> won't cause it to remove the Fedora 11 packages that had their updated
> versions installed before the failure.
>
> c) If you have two versions of fedora-release installed, yum seems to
> select repositories for the older one.
>
> d) 'yum upgrade --obseletes --skip-broken' is really, really dumb
> compared to apt-get or aptitude. If your system is in an inconsistent
> state, prepare to spend a lot of time manually fixing it. rpm and
> package-cleanup are your friends.
>
> [0] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade
> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq
>
> --
> All the best,
> Brian Pitts
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Awesome, thanks for your feedback fellas.

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Marc Ferguson

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