[ale] OT: Out in left field or in the sewers of The Big Apple

[Jeff Lightner]

They might have  - either he'd have tripped over the cone (better than
falling down a manhole I daresay) because it was directly ahead of him
or he'd have a chance to see it peripherally if not.  

 

Also in my experience usually work around man holes isn't demarcated
simply by a couple of cones - usually there's a bit of an enclosure
around it - more for the safety of the folks going down the hole (on
purpose) than for others.

 

Saying people shouldn't be morons and not paying attention isn't wrong
but that also doesn't give license to ignore basic safety precautions. 

 

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From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Jim
Kinney
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 2:56 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Out in left field or in the sewers of The Big
Apple

 

 

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Jeff Lightner <jlightner at water.com>
wrote:

Still -  why were the putting up safety cones AFTER opening the manhole?


safety cones would not have prevented the idiot from falling in. cones
first, open hole second seems reasonable. Yet I've seen open hole, look
in to determine if that's where they need to be, determine yes, drop
cones.

It's my feet I'm in charge of. Step in dog poo, yes the dog dropped it,
the owner didn't clean it up, but it's _still_ my feet.

Sheesh. I thought I was "one of the liberals" here :-) 

	 

	Most OSHA requirements deal with setting up safety environment
first and then starting the work.  Attaching a tether on a high rise
after you've started your fall seldom works...

	 

	
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	From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf
Of Jim Kinney
	Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 2:22 PM

	
	To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
	Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Out in left field or in the sewers of The
Big Apple

	 

	Bozo child was a teenager (definition of dumb in many cases).
Workers were apparently standing there setting up safety cones. All I
read out if this was: stupid teen was NOT paying attention and walked
into a hole. She could have just as easily fallen into traffic.

	
	
	Do we have to resort to this?
	http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1724522,00.html

	On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Richard Bronosky
<Richard at bronosky.com> wrote:

	I'm sorry, I have to agree with the parents on this one.
Knowingly
	leaving a manhole cover off without a barrier is unacceptable.
We are
	all eager to condemn a pop-tart on a cellphone, but as the
father of a
	1 & 2 year old I don't like the idea that there could be a > 2ft
	diameter hole in a sidewalk.

	
	On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Scott
Castaline<skotchman at gmail.com> wrote:

	> How low can we go?!?! Saw this in Wired
	>
	>
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/07/girl-falls-into-manhole-while-tex
ting-parents-sue/
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