[ale] [OT][Way OT] Industrial Power Question - Further OT - Oilcompanies

Greg Freemyer greg.freemyer at gmail.com
Fri Feb 6 16:10:26 EST 2009


I can only say, my friend specifically said the oil company profits of
2008 were heavily impacted by Mark-to-Market forcing them to reflect
major profits / losses associated with their drilling properties
caused by the changing price of oil.

He is the type of person that would understand what he was saying.  I don't.

And with that, I bow out of this issue.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Jeff Lightner <jlightner at water.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately you misread:
> Mark-to-market is an accounting methodology of assigning a value to a
> position held in a financial instrument.
>
> Property is not a "financial instrument" - it is a hard asset (real
> estate, equipment etc...).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Greg
> Freemyer
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:51 PM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: Re: [ale] [OT][Way OT] Industrial Power Question - Further OT -
> Oilcompanies
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Jeff Lightner <jlightner at water.com>
> wrote:
>> What crap!
>>
>> Book value of capital assets does not increase while they are held.
>
> Unfortunately you are wrong.  Ever heard of "Mark to Market".  Blamed
> by many for our financial meltdown.
>
> I can only tell you what wikipedia has to say, but per it, as of Nov.
> 2007 the rules changed.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_to_market#FAS_157
>
> I do know that a lot of talking heads were complaining about "mark to
> market" back in Sept / Oct because now assets MUST be valued at "fair
> market value" in a lot of cases and with real estate values dropping
> it was devastating banks.
>
> Isn't it great to know this one little regulation change may have
> triggered the entire collapse of our financial industry.
>
> Greg
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