[ale] Exporting M$ Express mail files (MacOS -> ???)

[Jim Kinney]

I would without any hesitation strongly recommend that any business user
have their sysadmin setup email to reside on a Linux machine over anything
produced by the geek-wannabe's in Redmond. A typical business dweeb can't
find the raw email files anyway.

For long-term use, a generic format that works nicely is maildir for the
message storage and IMAPS for accessing it. If absolute security is
required, the maildir location can be made as an append-only partition. That
would cause issues with people doing routine manual mail archiving and
sorting.

For real email storage security,
0. DON"T USE ANY MICROSOFT PRODUCTS FOR ANY REASON. EVER!
1. Everyone's email get duplicated away from their direct control and
offlined to archives immediately (Sarbanes-Oxely [sic] which the White House
is immune from using out of gross incompetence and other not so nice terms)
2. Talk to Bob Toxen

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer at gmail.com>
wrote:

> RE: PST files
>
> Outlook express does not use pst files.  It uses DBX files and it can
> actually open a RFC-822 e-mail.  (Outlook itself cannot do that.)
>
> As to moving pst files around, I disagree.  We move them around;  Burn
> them to CD;  Attach small ones to e-mails; etc. all the time.  For
> best results you need Outlook to work with a PST, but it is actually
> one of the best containers for e-mails I have worked with.  Very hard
> for the end user to tamper with the underlying e-mail because of the
> proprietary structure of the container.
>
> ie. e-mails are business records and there is a strong business
> advantage to having a strong barrier to manipulation inherent in the
> way they are maintained.  OTOH, I have never tried to after the fact
> manipulate a thunderbird e-mail, but the mailbox structure it uses is
> very simple so I assume it could easily be done.  For this reason I
> would hesitate to recommend to a client that they maintain their
> business record e-mails within Thunderbird.
>
> Greg
>
>
> 2008/5/6 Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>:
> > Put thunderbird on the mac first and use it's import function. Now you
> have
> > a mostly) transparent migration process by just relocating the
> thunderbird
> > files to a new machine. Moving pst files is always a bad idea.
> >
> >  _USING_ pst files is always a bad idea :-)
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 2:08 PM, John Mills <johnmills at speakeasy.net>
> wrote:
> > > ALErs -
> > >
> > > The family iMac is about to move to another life and I need to capture
> my
> > > wife's Outlook Express e-mail files and address book for some other
> mail
> > > reader. If we go with some Linux box for her, what are the mail reader
> and
> > > export/import options for doing this? Does 'thunderbird' have a way to
> > > import M$ mail and addresses?
> > >
> > > TIA.
> > >
> > >  - Mills
> > >
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