[ale] Web server OS
Jeff Hubbs
hbbs at comcast.net
Thu Dec 25 08:04:33 EST 2008
Pat Regan wrote:
>
> The important part about that 5 year support is that I have a pretty
> reasonable guaranty that I'll have the same major revision of each
> packaged piece of software for 5 years. If I have servers that are
> chugging away happily with the software they have installed, I'd much
> prefer not to mess with it until I have to.
>
> It takes significantly less time to test the small number of packages
> that get security updates than it does to test everything that just
> happens to have incremented its version number.
>
Who would need to? I sure don't. If I care about, say, OpenSSH and
Apache on a server, I can watch those packages for updates and emerge
them when ready (or, I can automate that so that it emerges when it
becomes available even if I'm not aware, although that may be a little
dangerous)
> I don't have a problem with the idea of a distribution that is just the
> newest working version of every piece of software. I think it is a
> wonderful idea, and I think it has its place.
>
That's not quite what happens. Most of the time, the "current" version
of a Gentoo package is not the newest one in the Portage tree; if you
want to go newer, you can, and Portage will sort out the dependencies.
The package maintainers make the call as to when a given version of a
given package becomes current.
> Laziness, impatience, and hubris. I don't know how much impatience you
> have, but we both seem to have enough hubris. I think you just need to
> learn more laziness :)
>
I feel like you've read me wrong. I don't have any more hubris over
Gentoo than I can really work up over my stove when I'm cooking; I turn
the knobs and it heats up stuff, just like I tell it to. I can't say I
exactly feel burdened by it, either (although things like WiFi and
accelerated video can be a bit of a chore).
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