[ale] Re: How do you store your passwords?

Fri Nov 9 11:35:16 EST 2007

I ran out of room on my sticky note so I memorized a 6 character code
and then append the application name to it, like this:
Abc123hotmail
Abc123wow
Abc123secondlife

Etc.  
Better than writing it down I guess.

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   1. Re: How do you store your passwords? (James P. Kinney III)
   2. Re: RE: Latency issues on DSL (List)
   3. Re: How do you store your passwords? (Nick Ali)
   4. Re: How do you store your passwords? (Scott Castaline)
   5. Re: How do you store your passwords? (James P. Kinney III)
   6. Hamachi Question (Vikram Nanda)
   7. Oracle 12i users? (Ashley Wilson)
   8. Re: How do you store your passwords? (Greg Freemyer)
   9. Re: How do you store your passwords? (Scott Castaline)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:59:05 -0500
From: "James P. Kinney III" <jkinney at localnetsolutions.com>
Subject: Re: [ale] How do you store your passwords?
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
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On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 08:39 -0600, Preston Boyington wrote:

> on my old windows machine i used the password "pleasedontcrash", but
> haven't needed it in years...

Ha ha! I used to have to manage blunder boxes and used passwords like
"pieceofshit" "crashandburn" "VirusMonster" and many others expressing
my disdain. My boss was rather nonplussed at having to type in some of
them. :)

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:09:03 -0500
From: List <lst at wiencko.net>
Subject: Re: [ale] RE: Latency issues on DSL
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
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Yep, its not about you.  Your graph shows the same service profile I've 
seen, and the same the SF people now report - they claim the problem 
begins in the early evening and gets worse as the evening goes on.  They

say the problem is "intermittent" - which is incorrect, it is actually 
TOD dependent.  I've seen the same pattern for about four days now.

My metrics show ping times that peak around 800ms, so your profile is 
actually a little bit better than what I've seen.

It seems to have nothing to do with the traffic on the line.  I have 
done testing with loaded lines (streaming in, out, and both) and get 
essentially the same results as with unloaded lines.  Interestingly, the

problem only seems to affect the download side of the line.  Upload 
speeds seem to be about normal, while download speeds drop from (for me)

3Mbps on a good day to around 200Kbps when it is worst.  Uploads remain 
pretty constant at around 250Kbps.

Tom

cfowler at outpostsentinel.com wrote:
> Did I see someone say that SF were having issues again?  Did they
finaly agree that
> this is not caused by me using p2p and there is a real problem
somewhere?
>
>
> I've created some data
>
> http://demo.opsdc.com/delay/delay.html
>
>
> In the first graph I'm doing ping response times between me
> at a server at quality and www.google.com.  The 2nd graph is
> the actual traffic on the DSL line.  The reason for the 2nd is so
> that I can prove that I'm not doing p2p or anything else that
> could be wasting bandwidth.
>
> I'll update those graphs later today.
>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:38:54 -0500
From: "Nick Ali" <nali at ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [ale] How do you store your passwords?
To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org>
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On Nov 9, 2007 7:09 AM, Paul Cartwright <ale at pcartwright.com> wrote:
> On Thu November 8 2007 10:51 pm, Nick Ali wrote:
> > > I have too many machines, with too many passwords, to keep track
of. I'm
> > > looking for thoughts/best practices here. Do you maintain a
notebook or
> > > use a program (preferable, yet scary). If you use a program, is
any
> > > particular one considered to be best of breed compared to others?
> >
> > USB stick + text file + GPG.
> >
>
> could you expand a little on that?
> I'm only familiar with GPG for signing emails.. Do you have to have
gpg on the
> stick? what if you have the stick in someone else's computer that
doesn't
> have GPG?

There is no easy solution for not having GPG installed on the
computer. With different architectures and libraries, carrying around
binaries isn't a realistic option. But I can't remember the last time
I've seen a linux machine without GPG, but yeah, this could be a
problem.

For Windows machines though, you can copy the gpg.exe file and carry
it around with you. Create some bat files to set the homedir relative
to the gpg.exe directory and you are on your way.

nick

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:40:03 -0500
From: Scott Castaline <hscast at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [ale] How do you store your passwords?
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
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Geoffrey wrote:
> John Wells wrote:
>> Guys,
>>
>> I have too many machines, with too many passwords, to keep track of.
I'm
>> looking for thoughts/best practices here. Do you maintain a notebook 
>> or use
>> a program (preferable, yet scary). If you use a program, is any 
>> particular
>> one considered to be best of breed compared to others?
>
> I actually keep them gpg encrypted on my treo.
>
> Other possibilities that come to mind...
>
> sticky note on my monitor?
>
> I don't have to remember them, they're all the same and it's letmein.
>
> tatooed backwards to my forehead.  That way I can read them in a 
> mirror.  Security by obscurity.  Just don't tailgate anyone, they 
> might read your passwords.  Problem is, I've got so many of them, 
> they're running down onto my eyelid and that makes it terribly hard to

> get to..
>
Actually if you used your belly, the older you get and the more pizza 
and beer you consume, the more room you have for new passwords.

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:57:58 +0000
From: "James P. Kinney III" <jkinney at localnetsolutions.com>
Subject: Re: [ale] How do you store your passwords?
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
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On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 10:40 -0500, Scott Castaline wrote:
> Geoffrey wrote:
> > John Wells wrote:
> >> Guys,
> >>
> >> I have too many machines, with too many passwords, to keep track
of. I'm
> >> looking for thoughts/best practices here. Do you maintain a
notebook 
> >> or use
> >> a program (preferable, yet scary). If you use a program, is any 
> >> particular
> >> one considered to be best of breed compared to others?
> >
> > I actually keep them gpg encrypted on my treo.
> >
> > Other possibilities that come to mind...
> >
> > sticky note on my monitor?
> >
> > I don't have to remember them, they're all the same and it's
letmein.
> >
> > tatooed backwards to my forehead.  That way I can read them in a 
> > mirror.  Security by obscurity.  Just don't tailgate anyone, they 
> > might read your passwords.  Problem is, I've got so many of them, 
> > they're running down onto my eyelid and that makes it terribly hard
to 
> > get to..
> >
> Actually if you used your belly, the older you get and the more pizza 
> and beer you consume, the more room you have for new passwords.

Works until they "roll over".

eeww!

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:58:51 -0500
From: Vikram Nanda <vikramnanda at exsculpo.com>
Subject: [ale] Hamachi Question
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Hi,

Whenever I try joining an existing hamachi network

                 sudo  hamachi -c /etc/hamachi join <network_name> 
<password>

I get the following message :

              Joining <network_name> .. failed, [255]

The network name and password are correct as they work perfectly fine on

my windows machine.

Any idea where I am going wrong?

Thanks
Vikram

root      8184     1  0 Nov05 ?        00:00:00 hamachi -c /etc/hamachi 
start
root      8277     1  0 Nov05 ?        00:00:00 /sbin/tuncfg

I am using hamachi ver. 0.9.9.9-20 on Gusty

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 11:05:00 -0500
From: Ashley Wilson <awilson at smartfurniture.com>
Subject: [ale] Oracle 12i users?
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
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Anybody using Oracle applications 12?  What components are you using and
how did you spec your hardware?  The consultants are giving us some huge
requirements.  They  seem overblown, even for Oracle.

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 11:16:54 -0500
From: "Greg Freemyer" <greg.freemyer at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ale] How do you store your passwords?
To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org>
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I thought everyone knew that you just e-mail them to your gmail
account in plain text and depend on Google to keep it secure.

Lots of my online accounts even have an automated button to do that
for me ("Forgot Password", etc.).

===
Sadly, I suspect most people do use the above or something similar.

On Nov 8, 2007 10:30 PM, John Wells <jb at sourceillustrated.com> wrote:
> Guys,
>
> I have too many machines, with too many passwords, to keep track of.
I'm
> looking for thoughts/best practices here. Do you maintain a notebook
or use
> a program (preferable, yet scary). If you use a program, is any
particular
> one considered to be best of breed compared to others?
>
> Thanks!
> John
>
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:24:23 -0500
From: Scott Castaline <hscast at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [ale] How do you store your passwords?
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
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James P. Kinney III wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 10:40 -0500, Scott Castaline wrote:
>   
>> Geoffrey wrote:
>>     
>>> John Wells wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Guys,
>>>>
>>>> I have too many machines, with too many passwords, to keep track
of. I'm
>>>> looking for thoughts/best practices here. Do you maintain a
notebook 
>>>> or use
>>>> a program (preferable, yet scary). If you use a program, is any 
>>>> particular
>>>> one considered to be best of breed compared to others?
>>>>         
>>> I actually keep them gpg encrypted on my treo.
>>>
>>> Other possibilities that come to mind...
>>>
>>> sticky note on my monitor?
>>>
>>> I don't have to remember them, they're all the same and it's
letmein.
>>>
>>> tatooed backwards to my forehead.  That way I can read them in a 
>>> mirror.  Security by obscurity.  Just don't tailgate anyone, they 
>>> might read your passwords.  Problem is, I've got so many of them, 
>>> they're running down onto my eyelid and that makes it terribly hard
to 
>>> get to..
>>>
>>>       
>> Actually if you used your belly, the older you get and the more pizza

>> and beer you consume, the more room you have for new passwords.
>>     
>
> Works until they "roll over".
>
> eeww!
>
>
>   
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