[ale] OT - Non AT&T landline

[Jim Popovitch]

On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 10:41 -0400, Jeff Lightner wrote:
> However, your point is a little off - it implies AT&T is storing all
> bytes and providing that - which too my knowledge this was never
> alleged.  

:-) Does it matter to you who is storing the bytes?  If so, it may be
some entity you've never heard of... and it may be happening without
someone alleging it.

> What was alleged was that AT&T/SBC (and some other ILECs) were
> providing all details of call records to the NSA.   Most ILECs denied
> they were doing it and at least one got a retraction by showing that
> they were asked to do it but refused.

I don't think that is 100% accurate.  You are stating a media person's
opinion of what those companies stated.

>  AT&T on the other hand simply changed its policy to say AT&T owns
> data about YOU and can give it to whoever they want without your
> consent.  That is a fairly large outrage in my mind and I'm surprised
> that more people aren't incensed by it.  

I see nothing wrong, nor reason for outrage, in AT&T turning over
records of data that traverses *THEIR* network.  Stores you shop in
routinely turn over their video tape to the police.  Heck, right now in
Buckhead there are some 299 privately owned cameras that the APD has
access to.  Everything from Bank security cameras, street cams, parking
lot cams, and Mall cameras.   

I understand your frustration in feeling violated, I don't understand
your expectation of 100% privacy when you interact in public realms.

-Jim P.