[ale] RHEL on PowerEdge servers from dell outlet

[Jerry Yu]

wish the day would come sooner these mysterious codes get compiled into a
meaningful table for Linux. reboot seems to be the solution of the day. A
major DBMS vendor suggests to reboot over and over for the support tickets
we opened with them, like they didn't think their DBMS is ever used in
24x7x365 environment. Some tend to fight back saying we couldn't reboot for
fun. Some others tend to follow whatever the vendor suggests. Maybe, maybe
they truly believe the vendor knows the best.

On 9/27/06, Jeff Lightner <jlightner at water.com> wrote:
>
>  We've been running 2 6650s in an Oracle RAC config for about 18 months
> and just had our first apparent hardware failure (the PERC) last week.  For
> that Dell did actually provide a Linux utility that would show the
> statistics for the PERC after the reboot.   Of course their "linux group"
> didn't attempt to debug the MegaRaid messages that appeared before
> suggesting the reboot which of course I would have done without calling them
> as the system was hung.
>
>
>
> Anyway it was a good test to verify our RAC continued to work with one
> node down.
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] *On Behalf Of *Jerry
> Yu
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:38 AM
> *To:* Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> *Subject:* Re: [ale] RHEL on PowerEdge servers from dell outlet
>
>
>
> in that case, it is a good thing that the company could afford only Brown,
> the basic parts warranty (3-Y NBD). Admittedly, at one point or another, I
> could use some final authorities to rectify my answers/resolutions or my
> lack of or to shorten the time to reach such answers/resolutions. In our
> lab, a Dell PE6650 mysteriously crashed at certain loads. After many trials
> and errors, I ended up with a stable combo of kernel version, firmware
> version on RAID controller, dell's jbd module, plus HT disabled in BIOS and
> kernel.
>
> On 9/27/06, *Jeff Lightner* <jlightner at water.com> wrote:
>
> We use Dell for Windoze and Linux.  I really don't have much kick about
> the PowerEdge server hardware itself.  I don't have any experience with
> the Dell Outlet.
>
> One Caveat - While running RHEL (and Fedora Core) on PowerEdge seems
> fine Dell's support for Linux (below Gold level [$$$]) sucks wind.  On
> more than one occasion they've told me to boot from Windows to solve a
> problem on a Linux installed server.  It seems much to me that the Linux
> group you get really doesn't know that much about Linux.  Haven't gone
> to Gold level so don't know if it is truly better.  I guess if it were
> up to me to make the choice I might look for another PC vendor that
> didn't have such Windoze tunnel vision.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
> Geoffrey
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:24 AM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [ale] RHEL on PowerEdge servers from dell outlet
>
> Jerry Yu wrote:
> > I am tasked to purchase a few Dell PowerEdge servers, cheap. Dell
> outlet
> > seems to be a natual choice. I wonder if any ALEr wants to share
> his/her
> > experience with 'scratch/dent' versus 'certified refurbished'.   A
> good
> > bargain comes & goes so fast on their site. Any known trick to pull to
> > ensure I get what I want w/o refreshing the page every so often
> > (manually or
> > using curl)?
> > I heard some horror stories about other outlets simply stamp their
> returned
> > servers as 'certified' w/o going through really fixing up. Thus comes
> > another question, how do people test/stress/prep the server for RHEL
> > AS 4.4installation?
>
> I have no personal experience with Dell servers, but the view I get from
>
> the various tech lists I'm on, their hardware sucks.  Based on that, I
> would never purchase Dell hardware.
>
> --
> Until later, Geoffrey
>
> Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
> temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
>   - Benjamin Franklin
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