[ale] Window Managers for X

[Richard Kolkovich]

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On 09/15/06 12:38, James Sumners published:
> I didn't bring up memory usage for a reason ;)
> 
> E is all about eye candy. 

E is about having power, flexibility, and eye candy without being overly
"in your face" OR hogging resources.

> I believe the most recent releases of E16
> have been fixing up some of the memory issues, but I don't recall
> since I don't use it anymore. 

I cannot speak here, as I have not used E16 in probably 2 years.  I have
been running E17 from CVS.

> E17 will be even more of a memory hog
> because of all the new pretty effects. It will also run best on OpenGL
> hardware.

Have you ever run E17?  I am guessing that you have not, as these
statements are 100% inaccurate.  On my G3 clamshell, I booted into X
running E17, ALSA and pbbuttonsd (power management) with less than 35MB
of RAM used (oh...running gkrellm2, as well, to display this handy
figure).  I had not turned down any of E17's "eye candy" features.  I
think this sufficiently dispels this false statement.

OpenGL hardware?  Here is a recent log from #e on freenode:

23:25 <@raster> everything is software rendered
23:25 <@raster> all pixels are caluclated with the cpu

OpenGL hardware, when I last checked, does not assist the CPU in
calculations.  It is only used when the OS's OpenGL implementation is
called, thereby using the GPU, rather than the CPU, to render.

I hope you will find this information enlightening (pun intended - har
har).  Ignorance is a dangerous thing.  Please avoid it in the future by
not speaking of things which you do not know.

> 
> On 9/15/06, Danny Cox <DCox at icc.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 10:11 -0400, James Sumners wrote:
>>> I would recommend XFCE over Enlightenment for a general populace. But
>>> there is nothing wrong with E. It was the first WM I actually liked.
>>> So, even if it was a joke there is nothing wrong with the suggestion.
>>> E17 just isn't ready for prime time yet.
>>         I tried it long ago, but as I remembered, it was a real memory hog.  Is
>> that not true for E16 these days?  Since this will be used for a
>> "general populace", you'd certainly not want to begin page thrashing....
>>
>>         I'll go back under my rock now ;-).
>>
>> --
>> Daniel S. Cox
>> Internet Commerce Corporation
>>
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