[ale] good website for novice learning Java ?

[Courtney Thomas]

Boss sounds like a delightful chap  :-)

Charles, thank you for your suggestion re:Python.

BTW, what's the scoop on PHP and any other web tools on which you'd be willing to comment  ?

Cordially,
Courtney


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Charles Shapiro 
  To: Mike Harrison ; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts 
  Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [ale] good website for novice learning Java ?


  Heh. One of the primary reasons I took the gig I'm on now was the chance to use python in the real trenches
  (Plus of course it's on the subway..). It's very khoul & fun to code in -- I've also got a recreational site done in it 
  (  http://tomshiro.org/sudoku-grinder/html/ ).  I've written enough java to know I don't like it. When I have to use the JVM I write jython.

  I once told a boss of mine about Phil Greenspun's comment that 'Java is the SUV of programming tools'
  ( http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/09/20/java-is-the-suv-of-programming-tools/ ). He indignantly responded that he drove an SUV, and they were wonderful things. Kind of missed the point, I thought.

  -- CHS



  On 10/12/06, Mike Harrison <meuon at geeklabs.com> wrote:
    > supposed to be pure OOP where python is not.

    I've only written and worked with a little Python,
    and what made it workable for me was that it was
    NOT "pure OOP". It allowed a mostly procedural thinking 
    geek like me to quickly do what I needed to do.

    What makes Perl, Python, PHP (and others) really useful is they
    try NOT to force too much abstract architecture to everything.
    It's about getting a job done, quickly, efficiently and as safely 
    as possible. PHP wins in my book just because of it's broad and deep
    installed base, it's -everywhere-.


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