well, I just did another update for Kubuntu, ran kmail, and checked HELP. Kubuntu: kmail 1.9.3 KDE 3.5.3 SUSE 10.0: kmail 1.9.1 KDE 3.5.1 think it's time to talk to the wife about.... KUBUNTU :) well, maybe after my trip to DC next week.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800