[ale] OT: Re: ping

[Jeff Lightner]

A joke is a joke.  

One of my favorite quotes is "even people with no sense of humor think
they have one".  I think that came from the movie My Blue Heaven.

Like I told someone who posted off list I'm not any more fond of rabid
Democrats than I am of rabid Republicans.   As to perpetuating myths -
we're talking about a man not a God.  He can and has kidded about it
himself and even if he hadn't I will certainly still feel free to do so.

Another quote I'm reminded of is the one Robin Williams says as Adrian
Cronauer to the Lieutenant who had no real sense of humor.  I'll leave
out the exact quote for the faint of heart but it seems it might be
applicable here.

-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
To: ale at ale.org
William Fragakis
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:02 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Re: ping

A joke we can take. Continuing an urban myth that was begun with a
political agenda, is much more difficult.

Some of us construe "initiative" as helping fund - an entirely different
concept.

"...he sponsored the 1988 National High-Performance Computer Act (which
established a national computing plan and helped link universities and
libraries via a shared network) and cosponsored the Information
Infrastructure and Technology Act of 1992 (which opened the Internet to
commercial traffic)."

If you are going to quote from the link, read the entire link and don't
quote out of context. More from the same link-

"To claim that Gore was seriously trying to take credit for the
"invention" of the Internet is, frankly, just silly political posturing
that arose out of a close presidential campaign. Gore never used the
word "invent," and the words "create" and "invent" have distinctly
different meanings - the former is used in the sense of "to bring about"
or "to bring into existence" while the latter is generally used to
signify the first instance of someone's thinking up or implementing an
idea. (To those who say the words "create" and "invent" mean exactly the
same thing, we have to ask why, then, the media overwhelmingly and
consistently cited Gore as having claimed he "invented" the Internet,
even though he never used that word, and transcripts of what he actually
said were readily available.)"


regards,
William

On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 14:26 -0400, Jeff Lightner wrote:
> The quote "I took the initiative in creating the Internet" from the
link
> you posted certainly could be construed as a claim to have invented
the
> internet.   However I always knew it was blown out of proportion and
> that Al Gore did champion some of what went into the internet.  As I
> mentioned in my earlier post it was an allusion to that.  
> 
> Next someone will be posting that Dan Quayle never said he wished he'd
> take Latin so he would be able to speak with people in Latin America.
> 
> Can't you people take a joke?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
> Barlow, Jim D
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:03 PM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts; aaron at pd.org
> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Re: ping
> 
> Check your urban legends page...
> 
> Al Gore never claimed to invent the Internet. 
> 
> http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
> 
> Hi did work towards funding to popularize it in education.
> 
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 1:47 PM
> >To: aaron at pd.org; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> >Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Re: ping
> 
> >I sincerely hope that was an attempt at humor.  Mine was - as denoted
> by
> >the little smiley.  I didn't claim he invented it - I alluded to HIS
> >much derided claim to have done so.
> 
> >If it wasn't an attempt at humor I suspect your idea of "facts" would
> >include ideas I regard as laughable so would be humorous anyway.
> 
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