[ale] Opinions of Arch Linux?

[James Sumners]

I have stated my opinion of Ubuntu. I would appreciate it if people
will now stop trying to convince me it is some sort of Holy Grail.
I've been using Debian since the Slink (2.1) release. I think I can
tell the difference between Debian and a Debian derivative; and
develop a fair opinion of them.

Ubuntu, Mepis, et al. were not the topic of discussion. I have never
used Arch Linux but it sounds quite appealing. I was hoping to get
some user opinions of it from the local Linux community whilst I wait
on Seagate to get their rears in gear and send my my replacement drive
(it should have been here at least by yesterday, but it hasn't even
shipped yet). It seems that isn't going to happen. I guess no one here
has used the distribution; or if they have, they don't feel like
speaking up.

So, thanks for the replies. But I'm not going to use some sort of
Debian derivative that thinks they can do Debian better than Debian;
especially not a derivative of a derivative
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEPIS). I think I will give Arch a try.
If it disappoints me, then I will go back home to Debian.

On 8/3/06, Dan Lambert <danlambert at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> James,
>
> Have you even looked at or tried the Ubuntu 6.06 LTS? I'm running it on
> an IBM Thinkpad T41, and it's the most stable and usable Linux I've
> found. I had tried some of the earlier versions of Ubuntu/Kubuntu, and I
> was not overly impressed. This is a completely different system from the
> usability and workability viewpoint.
>
> If you are just totally set on Debian only, then what about Mepis?
>
> Dan
>
> James Sumners wrote:
>
> >They totally jacked up the default package management in 10.1. I am
> >quite sure that is why it took so long for the "Enterprise" version to
> >be released.
> >
> >As for Ubuntu. Ubuntu is _NOT_ Debian (I would emphasize that not even
> >more if this weren't plain text). I used it before I went to SuSe and
> >hated it. It is like running Debian stable with a mix of testing and
> >unstable packages. Insanity and absolutely horrendous.
> >
> >On 8/3/06, Paul Cartwright <paul_tbot at pcartwright.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>On Thu August 3 2006 2:19 pm, James Sumners wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Recently, the primary drive in my Linux machine developed a few
> >>>hundred bad sectors. I sent it to Seagate for replacement last week.
> >>>I should be getting the replacement drive soon. I was running SuSe
> >>>10.1 on the machine, upgraded from 10.0. I decided to use SuSe
> >>>because, due to classes, I don't really have time to keep up with
> >>>Debian/Sid. I liked 10.0 for what it was, an easy to maintain
> >>>desktop Linux distribution. After upgrading to 10.1, though, I have
> >>>become less satisfied with the distribution. The mangling of the
> >>>package management system, and having to use an alternate (Smart),
> >>>really turns me off of using SuSe for my personal machine again.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>hmm, well I am still running 10.0 on my desktop, glad I haven't
> >>upgraded:) I DO use smart though, I really like it, only because it is
> >>now supported, and it is more apt-get like.
> >>
> >>
> >>>I plan on switching back to Debian/Sid once my new drive comes in.
> >>>However, if anyone can make a compelling argument for using Arch
> >>>Linux instead, I may give it a try. Keep in mind that I prefer
> >>>Debian and the "Debian Way". So, if you have experience with both,
> >>>please speak up. Or if you just really like Arch and can give a good
> >>>overview of the system, let's hear it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>well, why not Kubuntu/Ubuntu?????? It IS Debian style, I have it
> >>installed on my laptop!!
> >>--
> >>Paul Cartwright
> >>Registered Linux user # 367800
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James Sumners
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