[ale] b'bye

Michael H. Warfield mhw at wittsend.com
Tue May 24 20:36:18 EDT 2005


On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 09:10 -0400, Robert L. Harris wrote:

>   Ale has always been great for the newbies and some of the elder
> users as well.  Fragmenting the group though does all a dis-service.  One
> of the best ways I've found is to go answering questions for those who
> don't know, especially if I don't have the topic expertise yet.  I've
> never been too good to turn down a question, too busy maybe but not too
> good or advanced.

>   Maybe meetings should start having more advanced topics as well.  Some
> newbies may come in over their heads but that's a great way to learn as
> well.  Being thrown in over your head is a great way to generate more
> questions.

	Back in the early days, when we first founded this group, we set it up
as a goal to alternate topics of "newcomer" or "basic" (I won't say
"newbie" here, because they were generally "meatfull" and not just
newbie chow) and advanced (but never over-the-top advanced, either).
That worked well for a number of years, even if it was only informally
maintained.  We might want to consider that again, but the issue is
always obtaining speakers.  It's tough alternating topics when the first
challenge is just to fill the schedule.

	And on that topic...  Aaron (I think) or somebody asked me about
reprising my PGP/GPG talk and keysigning party.  I'm not sure I want to
do that, just yet (later... next year... maybe...), but I am working on
some crypto stuff where I have my entire laptop encrypted (in
preparation for a speaking engagement in Singapore) and it has to be
booted from a USB flash key.  That's been a bit of a spooky adventure
getting to a fully encrypted system under the new 2.6 kernel and device
mapper and getting a bootable flash key built (based on Adios 4.10)
capable of maintaining the sucker.  It'll take a while to work up a talk
based on that (if anyone is interested) so it'll have to be later in the
year...  I would count that one in the "advanced topics"
category...  :-)

	Sooo...  I've got topics...

	IPv6
	Encryption (file, drive, general)
	GPG/PGP
	Keysigning Party
	Wireless Security
	Forensics

	Vote now and I'll see what I can do...


	Mike

>   As for the way off topic and over heated conversations, that's an easy
> one.  Mutt has ctrl-D and cap-D commands.  They solve those fights real
> easily and without any stress.
> 
> 
> Thus spake Christopher Fowler (cfowler at outpostsentinel.com):
> 
> > I've been a member of this list since 1995. I feel that I've grown with
> > Linux and that this group has not.  This is probably because the group's
> > purpose is to cater to the newbies and those that could be classified as
> > enthusiasts.  I've been doing Linux since 1995 as a career and not just
> > on the side in my spare time.  Naturally spending 8/hrs a day for that
> > long involved would make one very good at this OS.   The topics at that
> > ale meetings are more geared for those newbies.  I wish there was a more
> > advanced Linux group in Atlanta for those like me that want to discuss
> > more then setting up Samba, printing, etc.  
> > 
> > I've been doing some awesome stuff with Linux and I've not really found
> > anyone here in Atlanta that is doing something on the same level. 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 22:05, Jonathan Rickman wrote:
> > > Easy fellas. Both of you are too valuable to lose. Just take a step
> > > back and relax. I think the situation last week spun out of control
> > > because there was no easy "out" for some of the parties involved. I
> > > don't think that will be a regular occurance.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Jonathan
> > > 
> > > On 5/23/05, Jerald Sheets <jsheets at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > That pretty much goes for me too.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm tired of answering questions with UNQUESTIONABLE
> > > > sysadmin techniques and procedures with 400 messages
> > > > of tripe.
> > > > 
> > > > I've done all I can to be a good netizen with this
> > > > group, but there are too many people who wish to argue
> > > > for the sake of arguaing.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Jerald
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- Ben Scherrey <scherrey at proteus-tech.com> wrote:
> > > > > Remarkably its now been a few weeks since I've seen
> > > > > any significant
> > > > > on-topic traffic here and even that wasn't up to
> > > > > what I used to expect
> > > > > from ALE. I have too many mailing lists as it is so
> > > > > I guess its time for
> > > > > this one to go. For all you who participated in the
> > > > > more interesting and
> > > > > useful topics - thanx. I may return some day - most
> > > > > likely if I run into
> > > > > some esoteric linux issue and feel the need to give
> > > > > the list another
> > > > > shot at being useful. As it is now, that's no longer
> > > > > the case.
> > > > >
> > > > >     -- Ben Scherrey
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