[ale] Big Brother Wins, We lose... From /. Real-ID Passes U.S. Senate 100-0

[Mike Murphy]

I re-second prior suggestions of an ALE-POLITICS list for this stuff to 
go on.

Took my wife 5 hours last night to change her name on her license. 
Actual name changing operation was 20 minutes. Mind you, she'll still 
have to renew her license again in a year and a half as well (ie, the 
name changing operation did not buy her another 4 years). As far as I 
understand it, many of the provisions referred to will derail some of 
the reforms being attempted here to streamline the driver's license 
process, which in the very best case, will maintain the long lines.

Arguing with me about this will be fruitless for those on the right 
anyway (and anyone on the left that agrees with it). Driver's licenses 
should be just that: driver's licenses. They shouldn't be national id 
cards, anymore more that SSN's should be used for our natioinal id 
numbers for everything. They should be issues to anyone that is resident 
in that state of issuance that is operating a vehicle, regardless of 
whether or not that person is here "legally". I never should have joined 
this debate in the first place (as it doesn't belong on this list IMHO), 
but limitations of individual rights in the name of the security state 
gets my blood boiling.

The truth is: one half us in this country doesn't trust anything the 
other half is doing, because every time they do something and we 
challenge it, the excuse is either "shut up, this is for national 
security, and its unpatriotic to challenge it", or "shut up, why do you 
hate people of faith", or "shut up, you are the minority now, so tough". 
  REAL ID might be a good idea, but it doesn't matter, really, does it, 
since the ruling party allowed *no debate* on it in either house of 
congress.

On 05/11/2005 11:10 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 10:52 -0400, Mike Murphy wrote:
> 
>>Have you been to a Driver's License office in GA lately? This is only 
>>going to make the lines longer.
> 
> 
> In the grand scheme of things... how much time are you talking about.
> Last time I renewed my license (Oct 2004), it took all of 20mins at the
> Loewmans (sp?) Plaza office on Roswell Rd.
> 
> To be honest, the line to complain about is at Kroger in the
> afternoon. ;-)
> 
> -Jim P.
> 
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