[ale] Delivering ALE meetings on "Video" (was ALE CENTRAL for Thurs., 12/8, 7:30pm: SCALIX)

Mon Dec 12 11:23:27 EST 2005

Thats probably best since I've only got 16GB on www.ale.org

Chris

On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 10:27 -0500, Michael Still wrote:
> I can put meeting stuff on ftp.ale.org
> 
> On 12/12/05, James P. Kinney III <jkinney at localnetsolutions.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 06:40 +0000, aaron wrote:
> > > I have the video equipment readily available and, since I'm at most every
> > > meeting filling the moderator role, it is no problem to make a video
> > > recording of  the main presentations. At Jim Kinney's request, and in
> > > response to his offer for hosting an ALE video repository, I recorded this
> > > month's SCALIX presentation. That's the easy part.
> > >
> > > The challenge, as well as the more time and resource consuming part of the
> > > process,  is capturing and encoding the 60 or 90 minutes of video in a format
> > > that's appropriate and useful for delivery. Given that this is a Linux group,
> > > I think the encoding format should, at the least, be a cross platform codec
> > > with established, readily available Linux support, even if it is unlikely to
> > > be open source (almost all of the current media CODEC schemes are proprietary
> > > and thus are not  available as default components of free Linux distros).
> > > Functionally, the codec format must also create files small enough to stream
> > > on high-speed or be easily downloaded and yet still deliver a reasonable
> > > quality image with readable slides.
> > >
> > > I've been discussing this a bit with Jim Kinney off list and researching the
> > > issue, but I haven't hit on a good solution yet. From my extensive video
> > > experience, I know that using video resolution (720x480) framed to include
> > > the speaker with the slide projections filling about 70% of the screen area,
> > > DV (25mbps) and well encoded DVD (~10mbps) are just barely up to meeting the
> > > quality requirement for readability.  Given that DV is ~13gb/hr and quality
> > > DVD is 4.4gb/hr., I'm skeptical that mpeg is going to provide a useful video
> > > without  needing at least a gigabyte for every hour.
> >
> > Bandwidth issues can easily swamp my upload capabilities (768k). I am
> > envisioning only the speaker portion to make the video portion smaller.
> > This would be 25-40 minutes (unless it's me giving another 90 minute
> > yawner :). So the upload amount drops to ~2Gb or about 40 minutes to
> > upload one copy.
> >
> > Ugh.
> >
> > Maybe BitTorrent...
> >
> > >
> > > Video format suggestions are welcome, and I can encode on Mac if the Linux
> > > side is playback only, but my experience is that most of the stuff that gets
> > > labeled as video on the web isn't. In response to the video problems, I am
> > > also pursuing some alternative delivery approaches for providing useable
> > > visual information with much smaller bandwidth requirements, specifically
> > > along the lines of delivering the presentations as slides synchronized to an
> > > MP3 narration track of the program.
> >
> > A most presenters are using some form of presentation tool, a la Open
> > Office, this is a very good idea. Sound import as mp3 into a
> > presentation and then adjust the slide timing by watching the video is a
> > very workable process. If the presentation needs alternate video input
> > from a gizmo brought in (I'm thinking about the VOIP presentation
> > showing the hardware) then perhaps a low resolution video coupled with a
> > hi-res still would suffice.
> >
> > It can all be "web-a-fied" with the export to Flash capability in OOo.
> > Of course those of use who use a dual opteron system for a desktop can't
> > view it as Macromedia _still_ has no 64-bit capable Linux binary and the
> > 32-bit version crashes on load.
> >
> > >
> > > peace
> > > aaron
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sunday 11 December 2005 15:30, Michael B. Trausch wrote:
> > > > Trey Sizemore wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think this is a great idea.  Provided we have the commitment, it
> > > > > would be great to have the sessions video-taped and made available for
> > > > > those that have a conflict on the night of a given presentation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone have equipment to do this for the respective Central and NE
> > > > > meetings?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I second this, for the same reason.  I'm not sure how many people here
> > > > cannot make it due to scheduling conflicts and such, but for the moment,
> > > > I'm one of those, too.  :-(
> > > >
> > > >     - Mike
> > > >
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